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Found a link to an interesting article on xbox-scene.com:

http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/...e-I-HD-DVD/p1/

The first two pages of the article are about CDs and DVDs, which people intelligently following HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray (i.e., not being a fanboy without knowing any facts) probably already know. And in part 1, only HD-DVD is discussed; Blu-Ray's side is coming in part 2. But there were some interesting things I did not know about HD-DVD:

1. There are several newer formats in the spec, including a dual-sided DVD/HD-DVD hybrid. You could theoretically buy a hybrid movie today for your DVD player, and have some built-in futureproofing for the day when you can afford an HD-DVD player. (Not that I believe the movie companies will do this for consumers, that want you to buy the same movie over and over.)

2. There is now a three-layer format that holds 45GB. That is right on par with the 50GB of a dual-layer Blu-Ray. So unless there is also a three-layer Blu-Ray (I guess I'll find out when part 2 comes out), the arguments about Blu-Ray having more storage than HD-DVD may have lost a lot of steam.

3. I don't like the sound of this advanced copy protection that both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are using. If I read the article correctly, and I hope I did not, then the player can be disabled if you try to play a pirated disc. Those of you familiar with my previous rants about buying the movie (i.e. the content) vs. buying the movie to watch on a specific type of player (i.e. a plastic disc) can guess how I feel about this one.
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Part II of the article, covering Blu-Ray discs, has been posted:

http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/...luray-Disc/p1/
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon
Found a link to an interesting article on xbox-scene.com:

http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/...e-I-HD-DVD/p1/

The first two pages of the article are about CDs and DVDs, which people intelligently following HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray (i.e., not being a fanboy without knowing any facts) probably already know. And in part 1, only HD-DVD is discussed; Blu-Ray's side is coming in part 2. But there were some interesting things I did not know about HD-DVD:

1. There are several newer formats in the spec, including a dual-sided DVD/HD-DVD hybrid. You could theoretically buy a hybrid movie today for your DVD player, and have some built-in futureproofing for the day when you can afford an HD-DVD player. (Not that I believe the movie companies will do this for consumers, that want you to buy the same movie over and over.)

2. There is now a three-layer format that holds 45GB. That is right on par with the 50GB of a dual-layer Blu-Ray. So unless there is also a three-layer Blu-Ray (I guess I'll find out when part 2 comes out), the arguments about Blu-Ray having more storage than HD-DVD may have lost a lot of steam.

3. I don't like the sound of this advanced copy protection that both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are using. If I read the article correctly, and I hope I did not, then the player can be disabled if you try to play a pirated disc. Those of you familiar with my previous rants about buying the movie (i.e. the content) vs. buying the movie to watch on a specific type of player (i.e. a plastic disc) can guess how I feel about this one.
Very interesting but like you i really dont like number 3. the disabling of your DVD player if you try and play a non-official disk lol.. Thats abit harsh i reckon.
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Very interesting but like you i really dont like number 3. the disabling of your DVD playetr if you try and play a non-official disk lol.. Thats abit harsh i reckon
Equally concerning to me, and something I did not realize until this part 2 article, is that neither player is apparently going to output an HD picture to an analog receiver; those of us with component video connectors and no HDMI jack are out of luck. I don't think they should be permitted to do that, it's not our fault that HDMI didn't exist when the first round of HDTVs came out. It's yet another case of stepping over the line of harming consumers in the name of copyright protection.

Ack...I'll probably buy a new one in a couple of years anyway, my wife hates the "big box" TV and wants one of those slim plasmas or LCDs. *sigh* What's another few thousand dollars, right...?
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Oh dear Well looks like we will be forking out just that little bit more for HD then..Typical.
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Originally Posted by VulcanDragon
Equally concerning to me, and something I did not realize until this part 2 article, is that neither player is apparently going to output an HD picture to an analog receiver; those of us with component video connectors and no HDMI jack are out of luck. I don't think they should be permitted to do that, it's not our fault that HDMI didn't exist when the first round of HDTVs came out. It's yet another case of stepping over the line of harming consumers in the name of copyright protection.

Ack...I'll probably buy a new one in a couple of years anyway, my wife hates the "big box" TV and wants one of those slim plasmas or LCDs. *sigh* What's another few thousand dollars, right...?
Get a full calibration done (geometry,grey scale,etc) and she'll change her mind I can personally recommend Eliab from Avical if he ever tours your neck of the woods. He'll blow your mind! I was lucky enough to have him do 2 of my tvs in Seattle, but he rarely comes here. He's mostly East Coast, but does tour often.
Edit: I should add Chuck Williams to that also. I've heard he's insane, but have never had the privelege of seeing his work. Chuck can be found at HomeTheaterspot.com and Eliab can be found there or Avical.com If anyone is reading this and has never seen a hdtv professional calibrated, you've never seen tv at this level. It's a whole other world..
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lol, touring tv calibrators?
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lol, touring tv calibrators?
There are only a handful in the US with the equipment and knowledge to do it. The 2 I mentioned I'd most definitely put in the top 5 or 10 in the country.
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So now DRM has migrated from the PC into the home entertainment system? When will it end...

Pretty soon well have DRM toasters that only allow you to insert certain brands of toast. And DRM TVs that only allow one person to watch at a time. And DRM lamps that wont turn on unless every lamp in the house is the same brand.
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Well atleast the BluRay will be protected, so that means all those PS3 games won't scratch easily...

Cause if they report that steel wool test truthfully.. then that is pretty sweet.
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