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Originally Posted by samwise345
are the pentium d 9xx much better than 8xx series?
The 9xx series.
The 9xx series have 4MB of cache, while the 8xx series has only 2MB.
The 8xx series are lower-end and less produyctive than the 9xx series. Like nVidia, for example, a GeForce 6800 is better than a GeForce 6600.
The 9xx series has a potentially better core, and should be able to achieve higher clock speeds. If, however, you were to buy one for a budget PC, I would buy the 8xx series with a decent motherboard. You NEVER want a budget motherboard. Trust me, I did this and I am not proud of it. For example:
You need a budget CPU and motherboard. Your budget is about $325. You would either buy A:
Pentium 4 920 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116237
Asus P5VD1-X - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131566
Total: $320.34 (w/shipping)
Or B:
Pentium 4 820 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116213
Asus P5GD1-VM - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131520
Total: $316.49 (w/shipping)
Option B would be the best choice on a budget, because the more expensive motherboard offers more upgradability. It also has much better chipsets than the lower end one. You would also be more likely to sell option B easier than A, due to the much better motherboard. Like my board. If I was to buy a Duron 1.8 and a nf7-s2, I would have a better computer for less money.
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post #32 of 50
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With a MCP655 (1200LPH), 1 gallon res, dual heatercore, and a Apogee, along with a P5WD2-E, and DDR2-800, what kind of overclock do you think I can get. If Thumper can get 4.0Ghz on stock Vcore and air, is it realistic that I get 5.0Ghz?
ant no way. maybe 4.2. i am supprised that thumper got as high as he did on air. seems that overclocking has a very steep curve. once you hit the wall on stock vcore adding power will only help alittle.
    
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ant no way. maybe 4.2. i am supprised that thumper got as high as he did on air. seems that overclocking has a very steep curve. once you hit the wall on stock vcore adding power will only help alittle.
Remoster has a link where the 920 got to 4.2 on air (with 24 hour stress test), and it has the 920 to 4.8 on water.

I think I am going to get the 930, and hope for 4.8!
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post #34 of 50
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Originally Posted by pauldovi
With a MCP655 (1200LPH), 1 gallon res, dual heatercore, and a Apogee, along with a P5WD2-E, and DDR2-800, what kind of overclock do you think I can get. If Thumper can get 4.0Ghz on stock Vcore and air, is it realistic that I get 5.0Ghz?
What you suggest makes little sense in the overclocking world. I have seen 2400MHz on an xp 2000+ on air. If what you said were true, I should be able to get 3GHz on phase change, due to my better stepping and temps.
But no, that is not possible...
(Then again, my math can't be correct, because intel has 6 ops per cycle and AMD has 9... hmm... I'm going to try to figure this one out.)
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Remoster has a link where the 920 got to 4.2 on air (with 24 hour stress test), and it has the 920 to 4.8 on water.

I think I am going to get the 930, and hope for 4.8!
really! thats great. so i should be able to get my 955 to like 5ghzs easy.
    
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Originally Posted by remy5405
really! thats great. so i should be able to get my 955 to like 5ghzs easy.
The article shows the 955XE can get to 5.0Ghz on GREAT watercooling. So it is possible, just not easy.
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Aha! I should be able to reach approximately 2638.09MHz on expensive water cooling, if the highest on air for mine is 2400MHz. Especially since I have a better core and temps. But, then again, this can only be true if you can reach 5GHz on WC with a 920.
But these are theoretical possibilities, and strictly math-oriented. Reality does not allow this. Math disagrees with reality in many situations.
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klewiss, you cant compare the overclocking of these amazing PD Preslers to the lame Athlons (Lol im kidding) the reason 5GHz on water is entirely possible is because they are 65nm. Im still looking for that article where they got 5.2GHz on water but in that link above you can see the 920 at 4.8GHz so I think you can figure it out on your own
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That post is much different than what he posted earlier...
BTW, that Presler got OC'd to 4GHz on air... a 43% Overclock... My t-bred did 2300MHz... a 36% Overclock... on the nf7-s2!
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Originally Posted by Remonster
while a Presler (any Presler, 920/930/940/950) will do at least 4.2GHz with stock cooling


Hhhmmm, maybe in an open case with a house fan blowing cold air piped in from outside on it LOL



I found the stock HSF to be useless, running idle at about 54c at stock settings.

4Ghz on air cooling is possible, but I wouldn't recomendd anyone try it with a stock heatsink and fan that comes with the CPU.
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