Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Memory › DDR vs. DDR2
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

DDR vs. DDR2

Poll Results: DDR or DDR2?

 
  • 52% (22)
    DDR
  • 47% (20)
    DDR2
42 Total Votes  
post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
There is a build log thread that was debating this issue, so I decided to make a seperate thread. Which do you belive is better? Vote on yours, but you must back up your decision with a legitimate description. This thread is intended to help users buying budget intel computers, who are deciding on DDR or DDR2.

I choose DDR, because of the extreme timings in value DDR2 RAM. Although the DDR2 has a faster MHz, the timings slow it down by a significant amount.
Look at these two modules. The top is value DDR, and the bottom is DDR2.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227037
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227057

The DDR2 is more expensive, and has very high timings of 5-5-5-10. The DDR, however, is less expensive with timings of 2.5-4-4-8. That is a huge difference. Not enough for 267MHz to even out. Or to pay $7.14 more for. Or to pay more for a different motherboard.
Alienware 17 R2
(10 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
i7 4710hq NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M Intel HD 4600 Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 on Alienware Graphics Am... 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
16GB DDR3-3200 750GB Crucial MX300 SSD Windows 10 Home 64-bit 27" ASUS  
KeyboardMouse
Logitech G710 Logitech G602 
  hide details  
Reply
Alienware 17 R2
(10 items)
 
  
CPUGraphicsGraphicsGraphics
i7 4710hq NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M Intel HD 4600 Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 on Alienware Graphics Am... 
RAMHard DriveOSMonitor
16GB DDR3-3200 750GB Crucial MX300 SSD Windows 10 Home 64-bit 27" ASUS  
KeyboardMouse
Logitech G710 Logitech G602 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 26
The poll makes little sense as all the newest motherboards on the Intel platforms do not allow for DDR so if one wishes to use the DDR platform they must drop down to a lower motherboard technology to use it.

On the AMD platform there is no DDR2 support so such a poll makes even less sense.

Thus I did not enter the poll.

R
Roped In
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k P8P67 Pro Rev (3.1) @ B3 XFX Radeon HD 6950 XXX 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws 9-11-9-28 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2 X Callisto Deluxe 25nm 60GB Plextor PX-B910SA 4x Blu-ray DVD-RW Win7 64 2 x Samsung 275T+ 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Corsair HX10000 Antec 1200 Logitech G7 
Mouse Pad
Splatter Game Pad 
  hide details  
Reply
Roped In
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 2600k P8P67 Pro Rev (3.1) @ B3 XFX Radeon HD 6950 XXX 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws 9-11-9-28 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2 X Callisto Deluxe 25nm 60GB Plextor PX-B910SA 4x Blu-ray DVD-RW Win7 64 2 x Samsung 275T+ 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 Corsair HX10000 Antec 1200 Logitech G7 
Mouse Pad
Splatter Game Pad 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 26
^^^ Agreed, plus DDR is similar pricings to DDR2

What did I do ?

Currently got 512 corsair value RAM in, going to wait until ddr2 becomes cheaper, and upgrade to some performance stuff.

Your right, CURRENTLY, there might be little difference - baring in mind, my single 512 corsair value benched similar to DDR performance pc3200 sticks in SiSoft (2,800mb bandwidth if I remember, dont quote me)

I still feel value ddr2 still could out perform performance ddr - why don't we do some benchies to test this? I'll start =)

In conclusion: DDR's hit a wall it seems, whereas DDR2 has a lots of room to move. Why wouldn't you go with the new architecture with a much larger potential?
teh dominatrix
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 P5e3 wifi-ap@n x1900 XT 2GB DDR3-1333 OCZ XTASY 7-7-7-14 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2xWD 250gb 7200 RPM 16MB Cache @ RAID-0 Asus 18x Lightscribe Windows XP 32-Bit 2 x BENQ FP2200w 22" LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 1200w Neo-Link dual PSU Antec P190 Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
teh dominatrix
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Q6600 P5e3 wifi-ap@n x1900 XT 2GB DDR3-1333 OCZ XTASY 7-7-7-14 
Hard DriveOptical DriveOSMonitor
2xWD 250gb 7200 RPM 16MB Cache @ RAID-0 Asus 18x Lightscribe Windows XP 32-Bit 2 x BENQ FP2200w 22" LCD 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech G15 1200w Neo-Link dual PSU Antec P190 Logitech MX518 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by klewiss
I choose DDR, because of the extreme timings in value DDR2 RAM. Although the DDR2 has a faster MHz, the timings slow it down by a significant amount.
Actually, standard pc3200 DDR operates at a faster clock frequency than DDR2 667. DDR2 667 is only operating at 167 mhz, while pc3200 is operating at 200 mhz. Very common misconception.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500k Asus P8P67 Galaxy GTX580 8GB G Skill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel 80 gb SSD, Raptor 150 Windows 7 Home Premium 24" Samsung LCD Saitek Eclipse 
PowerCaseMouse
PCP&C 750W Antec P180 Logitech MX-510 blue 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500k Asus P8P67 Galaxy GTX580 8GB G Skill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel 80 gb SSD, Raptor 150 Windows 7 Home Premium 24" Samsung LCD Saitek Eclipse 
PowerCaseMouse
PCP&C 750W Antec P180 Logitech MX-510 blue 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by sccr64472
Actually, standard pc3200 DDR operates at a faster clock frequency than DDR2 667. DDR2 667 is only operating at 167 mhz, while pc3200 is operating at 200 mhz. Very common misconception.
That's a big misconception, DDR2 667 frequencies;

Since when 667mhz = 167mhz?

you must be thinking that DDR2 means it's quad pumped? No it's not.

What do you think DDR3 will be? 100mhz....


DDR
Double data rate is a type of SDRAM in which data is sent on both the rising and falling edges of clock cycles in a data burst. It is usually referred to as DDR as opposed to DDR SDRAM.

DDR2
Like DDR, DDR2 is a type of SDRAM in which data is sent on both the rising and falling edges of clock cycles in a data burst. DDR2 is the next evolutionary step in the DDR infrastructure and has additional features built into it to allow for increased system performance.


I have both, DDR and DDR2 and I can see the difference, not a screaming difference but I can notice it so that I can see that for CPUs such Intel it is better to run them with DDR2, specially with 3:5 and 1:2 ratios.
1:1 and DDR480 was not my cup of tea, 1:2 and DDR2 980 is the best or 3:5 and DDR2 800. <--overclock speeds (960 is oc'd from 800 and 800 is oc'd from 667).
post #6 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nasgul
That's a big misconception, DDR2 667 frequencies;
Since when 667mhz = 167mhz?
you must be thinking that DDR2 means it's quad pumped? No it's not.
Look at Conroe with a 13X cpu mult.....13 X 167 = 2.16 ghz. We can discuss further if you still don't understand, but that should help.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500k Asus P8P67 Galaxy GTX580 8GB G Skill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel 80 gb SSD, Raptor 150 Windows 7 Home Premium 24" Samsung LCD Saitek Eclipse 
PowerCaseMouse
PCP&C 750W Antec P180 Logitech MX-510 blue 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel 2500k Asus P8P67 Galaxy GTX580 8GB G Skill Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Intel 80 gb SSD, Raptor 150 Windows 7 Home Premium 24" Samsung LCD Saitek Eclipse 
PowerCaseMouse
PCP&C 750W Antec P180 Logitech MX-510 blue 
  hide details  
Reply
post #7 of 26
all i need to know is the PC####, because thats the supposed transfer rate in MB's, so if i see DDR PC4000, and DDR2 PC7200, im going with the DDR2, or if i see DDR PC8000(hypotheticly) and DDR2 PC7200, im going with the DDR
Magnum
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-4460 Some crappy thing EVGA GTX960 6GB DDR3 PC10600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Seagate 1TB / 128GB SSD Win 7 23" Samsung Logitech G51 
PowerCase
600W CM Centurion 5 
  hide details  
Reply
Magnum
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel i5-4460 Some crappy thing EVGA GTX960 6GB DDR3 PC10600 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
Seagate 1TB / 128GB SSD Win 7 23" Samsung Logitech G51 
PowerCase
600W CM Centurion 5 
  hide details  
Reply
post #8 of 26
How bout this? I will use the memory that's supported by my motherboard. Consumers don't have a choice! If they wanna use their processor...they are stuck with whatever motherboard supports whatever memory..
Desktop
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8120 Gigabyte XA990-UD3 Gigabyte GTX670 Windforce III G. Skill RipJaws 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M4 Western Digital Blue LG Dual Layer Sata Antec Kuhler 920 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 Dell 2007wfp 20.1" Logitech G710+ Corsair Professional HX650 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Coolermaster Silencio Steelseries Sensei [RAW] Func F10.s 
  hide details  
Reply
Desktop
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD FX 8120 Gigabyte XA990-UD3 Gigabyte GTX670 Windforce III G. Skill RipJaws 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial M4 Western Digital Blue LG Dual Layer Sata Antec Kuhler 920 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 8 Dell 2007wfp 20.1" Logitech G710+ Corsair Professional HX650 
CaseMouseMouse Pad
Coolermaster Silencio Steelseries Sensei [RAW] Func F10.s 
  hide details  
Reply
post #9 of 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by sccr64472
Look at Conroe with a 13X cpu mult.....13 X 167 = 2.16 ghz. We can discuss further if you still don't understand, but that should help.
Don't get confuse with the CPU's FSB and the RAM's FSB.

BTW, Conroe's fsb is 1066fsb, where did you come up with that 13x167? Who told you that?
post #10 of 26
Just wondering but wouldnt it make sence timings on ram would double if the memory's internal speed would double? Wouldnt ddr1 2-2-2-5 be the 4-4-4-10 of ddr2. There some ddr2 with 3 in values but I'm not sure.
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
4000 Clawhammer Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe XP (nLited) NEC MultiSync 75 
PowerCase
JustPC 550W CM Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW 
  hide details  
Reply
My System
(13 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardOSMonitor
4000 Clawhammer Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe XP (nLited) NEC MultiSync 75 
PowerCase
JustPC 550W CM Centurion 5 CAC-T05-UW 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Memory
Overclock.net › Forums › Components › Memory › DDR vs. DDR2