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post #171 of 481
Ok, first of all after your reply I remembered some of my previous errors .

You said something about the ram maybe not working properly,
I got these errors which you probably heard of before.
Sometimes when I close an app or working on an app, they close with the critical error message READ/WRITE error on X..... . So I thought there was something wrong with the memory. I got 2x 512 corsair VS as i mentioned earlier. But I bought them seperately, and im running them in dual channel mode. I'll try to make a photo of the rams asap. Because the modules may be identical in type etc. but the PCB is totally different . When I switched the 1st en 2nd RAM. So I put the ram in slot1 in slot 2 the problems occured a lot less. And I haven''t seen the error in a couple of weeks. So maybe it is indeed a faulty memory . or at least one of them and as you can lead from the text above the faulty memory must be the second ram.

The second error I had recently was what I thought an PSU problem. Because sometimes I heard a sort of click, the HDD suddenly stopping or something. And then windows freezed. So i thougt that maybe the total wattage of the PC was above the 450W of the PSU. I have as I mentioned the GPU and CPU both using alot of power but also 3 HDD's and 2 DVD-roms, the fans, some lights. So maybe the total Watt excedes the 450W???
But I'm not sure of that.

In your reply you said in 1A testing the settings on stock except the memory. Í'm currently running the third option in Prime95 (blend or summin) since 2 hours ago. And I will check if Prime95 gives errors ofter 12 hours. And I will get back to you in a reply.

The rest of the funny other measures in testing the pc are worth a try and I'll do them after the 12hourse testing in Prime.

So I don't know of the problems I stated above are related, I think they are but I certainly hope not. I know it's better to get a paired couple of RAM instead of buying them seperately. And the cpu multipliers standard is 12x200=2400. And yes I when I put the multiplier on 10x240 it gives an error in Prime95....

I hope you find anything valuable in the information i've given you,

tx again.

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Originally Posted by mrjminer
**Note, all of these tests should first be attempted at stock settings because you said you failed prime even at stock.**
I don't know if you mean that the 12x200 settings are unstable or if you mean that with stock (2,4gHz) it didn't work on 240x10. Can you clearify this please maybe im just not reading it propely...i dont know anymore

EDIT: I didn't flash the bios..i forgot so im testing the memory on bios 2.1...sorry bout that..
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post #172 of 481
Well...
My ASrock Dual is on the way...
decided to go for that instead of the Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939...

The latest BIOS for the board is version 2.10, but you are saying to use 1.90...anything wrong with 2.10?

Gona be neeidng help at some point setting this motherboard up...
The Asrock Dual is going to have a 64 3700+ Sandy on it...

so any advice from sandy users out there with a dual motherboard,
max OC tips etc...
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Originally Posted by Valllldondo
Well...
My ASrock Dual is on the way...
decided to go for that instead of the Gigabyte GA-K8NSC-939...

The latest BIOS for the board is version 2.10, but you are saying to use 1.90...anything wrong with 2.10?

Gona be neeidng help at some point setting this motherboard up...
The Asrock Dual is going to have a 64 3700+ Sandy on it...

so any advice from sandy users out there with a dual motherboard,
max OC tips etc...
The ASRock is very easy to set up. Just plug everything into the only place the cords fit and start it up! Anyways, everything beyond v1.6 of BIOS appears to be primarily changes made to support the add-on AM2 CPU board. Granted, Enzo said he has tried v1.9 and it removes some of the HTT barrier, so it's possible to go that far at least.

The reason that I recommend v1.2 is because it's the one that I had the best luck with, stability and overclock wise, when I had my ASRock. Beyond that, I doubt a lot of people see a need to go up to the latest version of the BIOS with systems working with earlier versions--when the latest versions are mainly to support a new CPU that they don't have.

Overall, it's just a regular motherboard, though, so your OCing will probably just be the same as with any other. Just remember to set the PCI bus to Async and keep the HTT Multiplier * FSB (I believe it's just called HTT on the ASRock) < 1000 and you're good to go
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenji Kasen
Ok, first of all after your reply I remembered some of my previous errors .

You said something about the ram maybe not working properly,
I got these errors which you probably heard of before.
Sometimes when I close an app or working on an app, they close with the critical error message READ/WRITE error on X..... . So I thought there was something wrong with the memory. I got 2x 512 corsair VS as i mentioned earlier. But I bought them seperately, and im running them in dual channel mode. I'll try to make a photo of the rams asap. Because the modules may be identical in type etc. but the PCB is totally different . When I switched the 1st en 2nd RAM. So I put the ram in slot1 in slot 2 the problems occured a lot less. And I haven''t seen the error in a couple of weeks. So maybe it is indeed a faulty memory . or at least one of them and as you can lead from the text above the faulty memory must be the second ram.

The second error I had recently was what I thought an PSU problem. Because sometimes I heard a sort of click, the HDD suddenly stopping or something. And then windows freezed. So i thougt that maybe the total wattage of the PC was above the 450W of the PSU. I have as I mentioned the GPU and CPU both using alot of power but also 3 HDD's and 2 DVD-roms, the fans, some lights. So maybe the total Watt excedes the 450W???
But I'm not sure of that.

In your reply you said in 1A testing the settings on stock except the memory. Ã'm currently running the third option in Prime95 (blend or summin) since 2 hours ago. And I will check if Prime95 gives errors ofter 12 hours. And I will get back to you in a reply.

The rest of the funny other measures in testing the pc are worth a try and I'll do them after the 12hourse testing in Prime.

So I don't know of the problems I stated above are related, I think they are but I certainly hope not. I know it's better to get a paired couple of RAM instead of buying them seperately. And the cpu multipliers standard is 12x200=2400. And yes I when I put the multiplier on 10x240 it gives an error in Prime95....

I hope you find anything valuable in the information i've given you,

tx again.


I don't know if you mean that the 12x200 settings are unstable or if you mean that with stock (2,4gHz) it didn't work on 240x10. Can you clearify this please maybe im just not reading it propely...i dont know anymore

EDIT: I didn't flash the bios..i forgot so im testing the memory on bios 2.1...sorry bout that..
It's all good, whatever BIOS works for you / whatever you want to use. If you bought your memory separately, that is probably going to be your problem then. I think there are two slots that you can plug the sticks in to run them in single channel mode, check the manual to see which they are b/c I don't have mine anymore.

By the way, I thought that you had said in a previous post that the board was failing prime at stock settings, regardless of the CPU multiplier (ie, any time it was set to 2400mhz however you got it there), which is why I suggested the above steps to test the system
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Alright I ran prime 8 hours. Because it slowed my pc down so much I couldnt use it, and I had to use the pc so..
But it ran without errors on 166mhZ and it passed so do you still think it's a possibility that I cant overclock because of the memory because maybe
if I ran prim 24hours an error WOULD occur...so thats still a question..

So what's next? Im absolutely clueless...

And do you think that the total Watt of my components exceedes the 450W?

I will make a photo next of the modules to show the difference in layout or pcb.
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Ok, in the atachment you can see my memory.
Both of the same type and size (512mb). But the PCB is totally different.
The first one is very crowded en the second is very bald.. and as you can see the memory has on the first one the text 'valueselect' and the second has a corsair logo on them.. I don;t know if a different PCB but same type matters in OC'ing I know one thing, and thats it's better to have two exactly identical memory banks..

Can any1 say something about the photó's?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenji Kasen
Ok, in the atachment you can see my memory.
Both of the same type and size (512mb). But the PCB is totally different.
The first one is very crowded en the second is very bald.. and as you can see the memory has on the first one the text 'valueselect' and the second has a corsair logo on them.. I don;t know if a different PCB but same type matters in OC'ing I know one thing, and thats it's better to have two exactly identical memory banks..

Can any1 say something about the photó's?
Yah dude, I'd say the memory is what's holding you back on there. Like you have noted, those sticks look like they are completely different circuitry. The bigger problem with having different sticks of memory is seen in system instability when trying to run them in dual channel mode. Granted, they won't OC equally when running in single channel, either, but in dual-channel their different architecture is more likely to cause them to not operate as in-sync with each other.

Try running the memory in single channel by putting one stick in the first blue memory slot and the other stick in the first black memory slot. Then, set your RAM to the stock DDR400 speed and try priming for like 2 hours or so. If you don't have any errors, I would just leave the memory running as single-channel then start OCing like a madman!

If it doesn't work, you could either buy a 2x512mb set and sell your unmatched set on ebay or something, or just use one stick and pawn the other or something. Other than that, the only thing that I could see to make the system more stable there would be to run the two sticks at DDR333 speeds and leave your processor at stock settings.
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post #178 of 481
Sometimes replies make me happy ..anyways...I got an offer running where I can get 2 x 1gig XMS twinx pc 3200 ddr400 Corsair memory.
Its price is 20% less than the lowest new price?

Should I get it? Or should i just get 2x512 mb new and twinx aswell but just 1gig in total?

I play games on max resolution of 1280x1024 (lcd) so I don't think 2gig is all that better than 1 gig.

Please tell me as soon as you can cuz its an auction... (hate those imo..)

tx

and btw I'm gonna test the single channel setup right now. get back to you asap.


RESULTS:
I placed the two modules in single channel.

12 x 210 - 1.40V -@166mHz - unstable
11 x 230 - 1.45V -@166mHz - presumably stable -still testing.. after 45mins Prime 95 fails...
11 x 235 - 1.40V -@166mHz - unstable
11 x 235 - 1.45V -@166mHz - unstable
10 x 255 - 1.45V -@166mHz - unstable
9 x 283 - 1.45V -@166mHz - unstable, pc not booting
11 x 230 - 1.45V -@188mHz - unstable

So can I conclude that on this Voltage and memory speed and cpu max of 2470mHz my overclock is?? Fairly bad results, I'd say..
And the CPU gets up to 50 and sometimes 51°C. This is hot I know, but I'm using the stock cooler, and im planning on buying a Thermalright Si-120 of a Tuniq tower.
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post #179 of 481
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hey well first there is nothing wrong with any of the bioses alough i have found a small problem with 1.9v just know but i solve it lol and im going to give 2.1v a try later and ill report back

and the guy above u made a good chose with this board its great for the money and has all the basic features and its CHEAP!! lol
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Hi Enzo,

I don't know if you read my posts, but the problem is I can't overclock due to the different versions of mij memory modules.

Know I'm bidding on e-bay like site for TWINX2048-3200C2 and is this a good thing to buy? Or is it better to buy another type of memory?
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