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Oh, forgot to add that the dx9.0c version I'm running is from the CoD2 install disk. Well, I think it is, because i'm not sure if it actually updated anything. I'm running the shareware of 3dmark05 1.3.0 build.

And all of this is a moot issue since I have an Asus A8N on order. Thanks for the assist, and don't worry, I'm sure I'll need help with the next mobo too. After all, I've swapped out every part on this machine except the cpu, which will probably be found to be the problem with the way my luck runs.
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Oh, forgot to add that the dx9.0c version I'm running is from the CoD2 install disk. Well, I think it is, because i'm not sure if it actually updated anything. I'm running the shareware of 3dmark05 1.3.0 build.

And all of this is a moot issue since I have an Asus A8N on order. Thanks for the assist, and don't worry, I'm sure I'll need help with the next mobo too. After all, I've swapped out every part on this machine except the cpu, which will probably be found to be the problem with the way my luck runs.
Just a few details you might want to check: cpu to agp/pci bus should be set to async when OCing. Should keep the HTT close or around 1000. Have you installed your processor driver? You seem to be a veteran at Ocing but I hope this will help you in some way.
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Actually this is my first cpu OC. I just discovered overclock.net like a month ago. Before then I hadn't ever given it any thought. I've been building my own PCs for fifteen years, but I never thought about ocing. So far, it doesn't look like I'm very good at it. That just means I need more practice

The cpu async was already set, as per the guide on the first page of the thread, which is what I followed. I can even give you the screenshot of the cpu-z saying that my OC was up to 2.814 with the memory timings included, but the system was still benchmarking in the athlon xp range, and I have no idea why. I streamlined my startup(no antivirus, wireless nic, etc.) and it helped a little, but not a whole lot. I found an earlier guide on the forum to stabilize a dual core AMD(which is how I found Overclock.net), and I used the AMD driver that guide recomended, or else I wouldn't have even known to do it.

I honestly think that I just got either a bad cpu or a bad mobo. It happens. That might explain why the freeze problem goes away when I shut off dual core support. Or I got really "lucky" and got one of those energy efficient AMDs and will find that I should have checked for that.
Thanks for the reply tho'.
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Hey just wanted to FYI, I was checking up on the intel version of the dual VSTA, and apparently the via SATA controller can be problematic. Since I'm running everything IDE still, I just disabled it in the bios. Will let everyone know if it helps out with the freeze on startup issues.
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Hey just wanted to FYI, I was checking up on the intel version of the dual VSTA, and apparently the via SATA controller can be problematic. Since I'm running everything IDE still, I just disabled it in the bios. Will let everyone know if it helps out with the freeze on startup issues.
Keep us posted, Dude. I think all of us can learn from your present encounter. Good luck!
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Note to self: There really is a reason why the open box motherboards from Newegg are SO cheap.

Couldn't get the A8n-e to finish a windows install, switched bios version 1006-1013. So, have rebuilt the Dualie.

I will be putting my 7900gt that I got from Nuc in tomorrow morning. But for the moment the Dualie is running fairly stable. Fresh install on a fresh format, bios set at defaults. In fact the only freeze that I'm getting is when I try to install the sound drivers. Coincidently, the system used to freeze when it was loading the sound drivers during startup. I'm thinking that this thing doesn't like my Audigy 2. I'm going to try switching to the onboard sound and see if there's any change. I always had it disabled before.
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Can someone remind me how to reset the BIOS back to factory settings...?
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when you get to the main screen for the bio's over on the right side there should be an option to reset your bios to factory default settings
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when you get to the main screen for the bio's over on the right side there should be an option to reset your bios to factory default settings

Really...? Will check when i get home. I thought its the battery or jumpers..?
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Hey everybody,

Just thought that I would update again....

I pulled the Audigy and switched to a PICe graphics card. The startup freeze seems to be gone. There's not even a hint of it. Also, the cpu tests that I ran on 3d mark are now running inline with what the system should be running. Moral of this story seems to be that while the Duals CAN run an AGP graphics card, you should probably upgrade to PCIe as the entire board seems to preform better.

I do have one reservation, however. I am now having seemingly random freezes. One happened right as I began tying this message the first time, but thats to firefox's restore feature i didn't lose the first paragraph. The other one happened at the end of "cayon run" during my first 3dmark 05 test. I am not sure yet if this might be a cooling issue with the graphics card or something else potentially more serious. I am running the amdcpu driver and the microsoft dual core hotfix as well as Forceware 93.71. I'm going to try to run 3dmark again and see.


EDIT 5 minutes later

Okay, once again during "cayon run" the system crashed, but this time it was accompanied by the BSoD with a page fault. Again, the entire system is running with bios defaults with the exception of having changed the graphics selector to PCIexpress. The 7900gt is voltmodded, but it's running at stock speeds.


EDIT 1 hour later

Alright, the bad news is that I have been able to get the system to reset in both 3dmark and Call of Duty 2. The good news is that when run by itself, "canyon run" finishes smoothly. It's only when it's the third in line stress test of the graphics card does it lock/reset. CoD2 ran in dx9, 1280x960, 4x AA, extra textures, and anistorpic filtering for little under half an hour before the reset. I'm thinking that the video ram is overheating(cheap ramsink glue melted and they fell off), and this problem has little if anything to do with the board/cpu/DDR. Plus I'm pretty sure that the gpu is not going above 55c.

All voltage settings in the bios were set to high prior to this second round of testing and dx9 updated to CoD2 version.


EDIT 1 day later

Decided to run only the cpu tests in 3dMark05, ver 1.2. Before the switch to PCIe, this thing scoring 640- 792 depending on the overclock. The test today with all speed settings in the bios set to auto, and even a few items running that could have been turned off, the test returned 4723 as my new score. That's .5fps in Procyon to 5fps; .4-.5 in canyon run to 1-3. For me, this pretty much confirms that whatever problem I had was likely with the agp bus/chipset. Remember this was just the cpu tests. I'll be posting a full benchmark when I have the system totally stable.


EDIT 4 days later

I've managed to fry the motherboard. I never did manage to get it stable. I don't think that I will be buying another Asrock, probably ever.
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