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Hi xeon people smile.gif

I've had xeons in my time; 5640 and 5690 which were great chips and great to overclock.
Today I got a xeon 2690 12 core 2011 V3 cpu, $450 from ebay is brilliant!

I got it to replace my 5960x in a quite tight build - the i7 was suffering in there so I'm putting it into a bigger case with more rad area.
The reason I got it was that it I use it to render and it works as well as my 5960 oc'ed to 4.7 - 1800 ish on cinebench R15, but with less watts - 140 vs 350 odd for the i7.

The thing is, the new xeon is idling at nearly 60deg C! which is 20deg more than the 5960 at idle.
What's really puzzling me is that the cores are in the high 30's which is good, but the package is 60.

Under full render load it ramps up to 65 (75 for the i7) which is a tiny change from idle. So cooling at full load is fine with plenty of headroom for a minor OC if I want to.

I'm a bit stumped right now.
Should I care about 60deg idles when the full load is so low
Is it TIM
Is it xeons
Is it something I haven't thought about?

I'm running 2x120 EK slim rads, 1 in push pull with a D5 pump which should be ok for this chip.
EVGA Micro 2 (matx) jammed into an inwin 901 mitx case so it really is tight...
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Edit::
It gets stranger...
I overclocked it.
It goes way up to 125 and goes to windows, stress tests, but doesn't perform any better. I haven't tried any more.
The best seems to be around the 105 bclk mark which gets me 5% improvement on speed and 3000MHz.
Oddly, the cores don't all get there - they range from 2807 to 3015MHz.

But when I set the volts on adaptive 1.3 the package temps dropped to 45 at idle and under load to 53, which is really low.
It seems like the mobo and chip combo was overvolting way high on default auto settings? Particularly on idle.
And now max volts under load seem to be .932V.
On CPUID I look at cpu volts vid right?

Sorry about all the newb questions... I'm a bit confused because this isn't anything like the old xeons or the i7 5960x
Mr google is not much help with overclocking 2690s...

It's just quite fun and I'm wondering if you guys have any ideas to make it go fast. Stability and temps don't seem to be a problem right now but I'm clueless as to max volts. I'm going for 3.5 but that's not turning up on cpuid, just being set in bios.
post #393 of 672
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Originally Posted by surfinchina View Post

Edit::
It gets stranger...
I overclocked it.
It goes way up to 125 and goes to windows, stress tests, but doesn't perform any better. I haven't tried any more.
The best seems to be around the 105 bclk mark which gets me 5% improvement on speed and 3000MHz.
Oddly, the cores don't all get there - they range from 2807 to 3015MHz.

But when I set the volts on adaptive 1.3 the package temps dropped to 45 at idle and under load to 53, which is really low.
It seems like the mobo and chip combo was overvolting way high on default auto settings? Particularly on idle.
And now max volts under load seem to be .932V.
On CPUID I look at cpu volts vid right?

Sorry about all the newb questions... I'm a bit confused because this isn't anything like the old xeons or the i7 5960x
Mr google is not much help with overclocking 2690s...

It's just quite fun and I'm wondering if you guys have any ideas to make it go fast. Stability and temps don't seem to be a problem right now but I'm clueless as to max volts. I'm going for 3.5 but that's not turning up on cpuid, just being set in bios.

What about cache speed?
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What about cache speed?

I guess I'll play more when I get my backup machine working this weekend tongue.gif

I'm running it at 104 bclk and 1.2 volts now and it's nice and stable, package idle 44 and cores 38, under load is 52deg package and 50 cores.
Here is mid summer, so I can expect 10 deg less in winter smile.gif

But yes. I'm not that familiar with EVGA bios and X99 yet. X58 and gigabyte and 6 core xeons are my history.
I will try out some of the caches ans such like. There seems to be a lot less to play with in bios after taking out the i7.
The memory OC might work well.
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Originally Posted by surfinchina View Post

I guess I'll play more when I get my backup machine working this weekend tongue.gif

I'm running it at 104 bclk and 1.2 volts now and it's nice and stable, package idle 44 and cores 38, under load is 52deg package and 50 cores.
Here is mid summer, so I can expect 10 deg less in winter smile.gif

But yes. I'm not that familiar with EVGA bios and X99 yet. X58 and gigabyte and 6 core xeons are my history.
I will try out some of the caches ans such like. There seems to be a lot less to play with in bios after taking out the i7.
The memory OC might work well.
Memory OC does nothing, cache speed does.

I doubt it's actually stable at 125MHz that's why you don't see any performance improvement that or the cache speed is holding it back.
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yep. Full intel retail chip biggrin.gif
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yup
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Oh hai. Sadly its only the one, and its on a crap board to boot so no turbo above all 8 cores. I aim to eventually get another, and a 2P board for 16c/32t fun.
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Are there any inexpensive socket 2011 (not ver 3)but decent Xeon cpu's? I am trying to stay around $100 if possible and I need at least a quad core.
Bar that, what is the lowest cost Xeon core I can get for a socket 2011 board.
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