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What would I need VT-d for? Is there anything I would loose out on if I get the C2 version?

Don't know what you would need vt-d for. I just got the c2 version just because.

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The 5960x scores 1850 in cinebench vs 1800 for the 2690 12 core.
When rendering identical scenes they're very close in performance. Although the 5960x is oced to 4.7 and is a golden chip. I don't think an 8 core xeon will get to that.
Sometimes I run the 5960x at 4.4 (super hot days) and it'll do around 1720 on cinebench. I imagine that's a more realistic goal for a xeon 8 core.


My 1680 v2, I got to 1759 in r15, that's about it.




That's at about 4.9GHz.
    
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I ordered the 2670 c2 version.
If this chip is OCable what is a decent OC number to hit?
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AFAIK the E5 26XX chips are locked and do not OC.
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Originally Posted by surfinchina View Post

The 5960x scores 1850 in cinebench vs 1800 for the 2690 12 core.
When rendering identical scenes they're very close in performance. Although the 5960x is oced to 4.7 and is a golden chip. I don't think an 8 core xeon will get to that.
Sometimes I run the 5960x at 4.4 (super hot days) and it'll do around 1720 on cinebench. I imagine that's a more realistic goal for a xeon 8 core.

E5-1660/1680 Xeons are the better binned chips compared to 5960X's. They usually overclock better, run cooler and often have stronger IMCs than the i7 equivalent.
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Wat? 2011 v1 and v2 share the same 2011 socket.

In fact, X79 boards are used for V1 and V2

It's V3 that's a HW-E ...
Eh.

If it supports a V2 it supports a V1. That was what X79 was to work with in the first place. If it's not "compatible" it's just excuses by the shop or the CPU is plain broken
AFAIK the only confirmed OC'able 8 core cheap Xeons are ... none. Unless somebody has info on the 1680V2 (I doubt it will OC to 4.2-4.5 like the 5960x) and they'll be a lot more power hungry as well. The only OC-able (possibly) are either stepping 2 16xx V3 chips ES or the retail chips. Those are expensive. Besides the 12 core chips can boost startlingly high.

You're better off with a 12 core on HW-EP. I'm rocking a 16

Other way around....the 1680V2 is LESS power hungry than the 5960X. It overclocks better, not worse, than the 5960X (mine hits 4.5GHz with zero effort at only 1.28V) and Mr. Too Short's 1680V2 does even better still (he's more willing to play with his chip than I am).

The 1680V2 is the superior processor, being based off the Ivytown MCC die. More cache, cooler running and overclocks better, but is more expensive.
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I ordered the 2670 c2 version.
If this chip is OCable what is a decent OC number to hit?

I think it's 3GHz on all cores is the best you can get, maybe a little more with bclk overclocking. Up to 105 from 100 if your lucky.

Here is a benchmark score from Starbomba with his 2670 v1 and R4BE, proof the cpu works with the board:


http://www.overclock.net/t/1406832/single-gpu-fire-strike-top-30/1820#post_24891664
    
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The 5960x scores 1850 in cinebench vs 1800 for the 2690 12 core.
When rendering identical scenes they're very close in performance. Although the 5960x is oced to 4.7 and is a golden chip. I don't think an 8 core xeon will get to that.
Sometimes I run the 5960x at 4.4 (super hot days) and it'll do around 1720 on cinebench. I imagine that's a more realistic goal for a xeon 8 core.
1260 is a more realistic target
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E5-1660/1680 Xeons are the better binned chips compared to 5960X's. They usually overclock better, run cooler and often have stronger IMCs than the i7 equivalent.
Other way around....the 1680V2 is LESS power hungry than the 5960X. It overclocks better, not worse, than the 5960X (mine hits 4.5GHz with zero effort at only 1.28V) and Mr. Too Short's 1680V2 does even better still (he's more willing to play with his chip than I am).

The 1680V2 is the superior processor, being based off the Ivytown MCC die. More cache, cooler running and overclocks better, but is more expensive.
I'm comparing any OC'd 8 core to a HW-E 12 core.

Also, the 1680v2 is very highly binned but clock for clock the 5960x probably rekts it.
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I'm comparing any OC'd 8 core to a HW-E 12 core.

Also, the 1680v2 is very highly binned but clock for clock the 5960x probably rekts it.

A HW-EP 12-core will run cooler than an overclocked 8-core chip and perform the same in heavily-multithreaded applications. In other apps that can't effectively use all 12-cores, that are mixed multi/single threaded or more biased toward single threaded, the 8-core will outperform the 12-core, more and more so the more single-threaded centric an app is.

Yes, the 5960X will outperform the E5-1680V2 clock for clock, but the difference isn't huge. Combine this with the fact that the E5 runs significantly cooler, runs on existing X79 platforms and often overclocks better can make it more attractive to many people.
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That 1680v2 is interesting.
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This ASRock EP2C602-4L/D16 SSI EEB seems like a nice board for a not as bad price.

I been eyeing those Asrock Rack boards since I got my 2 E5-2670s 2 weeks ago (haven't test them yet). Asus Z9PE-D8 WS are over the roof right now around 500+ when they floating around 300-400 a few months back at ebay.

I'm temped to get this EP2C602 http://www.asrockrack.com/general/productdetail.asp?Model=EP2C602#Specifications as an alternative though the lack of USB ports etc on the I/O side still keeps me on the fence.

2670s are around 63 bucks a piece this week. I got my set for 67.99 each 2 weeks ago.
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A few weeks ago I had a 1660 (?) that I was going to get for just over $100 but I apparently had the wrong chip on my watch list so I missed out. I thought someone on here had said that the 1600 series chips were all OC'able.....Either way I will probably get a 2670 this weekend.
One last question, do these support USB 3.0?

Either way what else will I loose out on when running this chip compared to my i7-4930k?

Edit: Going through ebay and I found several 2670 chips for cheap. But they had some kind of different designations. Anyone know the difference between SR0KX and SR0H8?

Anyone has a pair of those SR0H8 running in a dual setup on Z9PED8-WS? smile.gif
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