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Im trying to overclock this p4 1.6, but can't get the fsp higher than 126 on 1,8500V, it runs at 2.02 ghz now, but ive seen others who can make it run at2.6

Please help me, im new at this :-)
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post #2 of 11
Not many would make 2.6 from a 1.6. You are pumping 1.85V through this processor? Stock Cooling? Thermal paste or the thermal pad of the stock cooler? What are your load temps?

I think you will not have this processor around for a long time.

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Im using a stockcooler, controled bu my mobo, right now in idle, it's 28 degrees and the fan is turning with 2300 rpm, when hot it goes like 3500 rpm, and about 40 degrees. I use the paste thats on the cooler.

Am i about to frie my CPU with the high volt?

Ive seen on other overclocking sites that it reaches 2.6 ghz.
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post #4 of 11
If you are at 40C on full load then heat will not be a problem. If you are at 40C on idle then heat might easily be a problem. Have you tested for load temps? Have you tried with Prime95?

Raising an early Northwood to 2.6GHz is like getting an Athlon Palomino raised to 2GHz. Possible yes, likely no and there will have to be some extreme overvolting (over 20%) and very good if not extreme cooling.

You are on stock cooling and I wonder at your temperature readings at 1.85V. To get to 2.6 I think that you would probably need 1.85V but if you need that much voltage to make 2.0 there is no way that you will make 2.6 even with extreme cooling.

What are you using to test your readings and what software are you using to base your load temps on? Remember, just because someone posts that they are at 2.6 does not mean that they are stable and every cpu is different. You are using a stock cooler with stock thermal paste and looking to get an extreme overclock?

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post #5 of 11
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I tried Prime95 and get error after about 5 min :-(
I use the aps i got with the mobo (Asus PC Probe) to read the temps and RPM, it says ca 27 in idle mode and about 47 when running prime95.

I really didnt know that 2.6 would be extreme for this cpu, as said overclocking is new to me, im not looking for en exstreme overclock just looking to get a litle more for my money :-)

The guide i tryed to follow said that they reached 133 fsp with 1.65v!

Should i lover the fsp, voltage, or should i try doing somting about the ram, read somthing about it could cause trouble in overclocking, but have left that out because i dont know mutch about it
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post #6 of 11
Have you locked your pci/agp at 33/66?
Set all spread sprectrums to disabled.
Set Legacy USB to disabled
Set Dram to 266

I would set the dram at 266 to remove it from the equation. I would drop the voltage to 1.65 and put the fsb at 210. Test with Prime95. If no errors then move to 215 and repeat until errors. I would then add .25V and test again for errors. If errors I would repeat again with additional voltage and test again. Once you can not test error free, then move down until you are error free. Then drop voltages and test. When you are at the lowest voltage for an error free test then you are at a maximum. I would not go above 1.65 - 1.7V on that Northwood myself.

After you are stable you can begin to raise your DRAM and test again. What spec rating is your dram?

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post #7 of 11
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No I havent locked or set anything, the only thing i have done is set fsp and volt.

Do you mean 210 fsp, i am at 126 now, and it makes error?

I dont understand "begin to raise your DRAM" dont know how to do that!

I dont know my dram spec ratings, where do i find them?

I will try what you wrote, thanks for taking time, i know im far behind ;-)
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post #8 of 11
My mistake. Please take 210 to be 110 . . .

Go into your BIOS and look at your settings. Look for "Advanced Chipset Settings"
  • Set "Configure DRAM Timing by SPD" to "AUTO"
  • Set your "Spread Spectrum" to "Disabled"

Move on to "Configure System Frequency/Voltage"
  • Set your "AI Overclock Tuner" to "Manual"
  • Set your "CPU External Frequency" to "110"
  • Set your "Dram Frequency" to "266MHz"
  • Set your "AGP/PCI Frequency" to 66.6/33.3
  • Set your CPU Core Voltage to 1.65V
  • Set your "DDR Voltage" to "Auto"

Test for stability. If stable move to 115fsb repeat etc...

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post #9 of 11
Ropey gave some good advice--but maybe confused the FSB number--basically a 20% increase is pretty possible and won't be that big a deal--but you are already past that (about 25%) to get further you will need to get a littel more familiar with your BIOS--poke around through the menus and you will find an option for "Advanced" the "Jumper Free COnnections" needs to be st to Manual (as it is since you are upping the FSB) and the 3rd option down in advanced--chipset options--will allow you to enable/disable "By SPD" when you disable SPD you will get a new menu for all your RAM timings--loosening your timings may add some stability--but save that for a little later.

In the first Advanced Menu Option when you got to MAnual you will reveal a menu that allows you to select your Memeory Speed--i.e 266 320 400 etc.--this is how that mobo handles "dividers" that will allow you to push your FSB without pushing your RAM out of it's comfort zone...

For instance as you raise the FSB it raises the speed of everything--the CPU the RAM effectively creating more bandwidth which yields higher performance.

THe extra voltage you are adding may help stabilize the CPU (there is also an adjustment for the RAM called VDimm) but it can stress out your mobo and your processor--even extra cooling can't protect your components from damage is severely volted out of spec.

If you are interested in this stuff why don't you click the link at the bottom of my SIg and take a read through the little book: "how to Build, Modify, Tune, Tweak and OverClock Your PC" and see is that helps...

good luck--and remember--you have already pushed well into the limits of that processor's ability--especially with stock cooling.
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post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by CyberDruid
basically a 20% increase is pretty possible and won't be that big a deal
I was speaking of a 20% increase in the overvolt, not the raise of the fsb or overclock

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