Originally Posted by Nasgul
Well, perhaps if you spend a little time knowing what a Mobile CPU brings to the Desktop platform then you'd understand. While I'm not trying to flame you as you might think but judging by your specs, You do speak from your own personal experiences of not caring for this and that, just as long as the PC in hand can do the job right.
That idiology is mine as well and so share the thought. I have not jumped in the Dual Core wagon yet and it seems like if I will, it will be in October or whenever the 960 is around the $350 or less. So yes, for the time being my 660 @ 4.32ghz it's plenty more than what I need but.....I'll replace it by the end of the year.
Few things you need to know about Yonah.
-Mobile CPU, socket 478 which would require a very expensive motherboard (somewhere in the $350+) to be compatible with.
-No motherboards available yet, here in the U.S. and if they become, prepare to pay premium price which I doubt someone would pay it.
-Yonah at stock speeds can't keep up, so you'd need at least a 2.0ghz Yonah which cost $417 but you will have to overclock it to at least 2.7-to-2.9ghz to start showing its raw performance. Getting 1Kmhz out of a Mobile CPU easy? yes! if you have phase-change, otherwise no such thing.
So, it's not about being a good or bad, 2nd best or 3rd best CPU, it's about building a system that would be very expensive and perhaps not as good as one that is meant and easily to obtain such as Conroe will. Because Conroe is meant for the desktop platform.
If you're willing to recommend a board that most likely will cost $350 and perhaps that Aopen board for Yonah may never make it to the U.S. market and a CPU that cost $417, then do it. It's not a wise choice in my opinion and it will never change.
$200 Yonah compatible board and $200 Yonah 2.0ghz CPU? then we'd be discussing how to get it to 2.9ghz.
Well yes your right, I did read that about the aopen $350 board only in japan, only desktop board that will run yonah. And yes I know yonah is a mobile cpu, and you'd of course have to oc one to make it shine up with the other top cpu's.
So ya your right I guess that it's not a good idea currently. It's also likely I suppose like you say that things won't change with that. But if someone comes out with a decent mobo that supported yonah, and maybe a little closer to conroe the prices could drop on yonahs too. You never know, unless you read something that says that won't happen I don't know. All I'm saying is that when it's a little closer to conroe, if you could
build a yonah system for alot cheaper than a conroe one, and oc it a good amount, it would be quite nice.
And honestly, I don't care about this
? So what would this
be that some dual core, or even your
cpu will do so much better on right now
? Gaming? Movie encoding? Surfing net? No, none of the above really, not in real life use. Benchmarks that's all, the only people who will get radically better performance than me are those with better video cards. Sure they'll outperform me, but not by alot except in gaming maybe. Even then you have to ask, is 140fps so much better than 120 for gameplay? Will you even notice? And for say movie encoding for example, which relies heavily on raw clock speed (which like pretty much all
games now, will NOT utilize a second core, not yet), will someones 775 socket cpu also at 4ghz do it faster than mine? Maybe a hair faster so what, not much. I know you understand, your a smart guy, and as you said yourself, even your rig is more than enough for now.
Believe me man, I don't want just an adequate system that limps by, I do like to have a computer that will do anything I want. Mine will at the moment and is quite fast at almost everything, can play games like FEAR too on almost all high settings, and plays well. Again not flaming anyone, just stating my opinion on these kinds of things, so don't take offense. That's what I'm talking about, is when peolpe say something like a rig like mine is barely sufficient or whatever, I just have to laugh. Sufficient at what? You guys crunching code for nasa or something, or playing games from the future? Granted a new system would be nice, just not even close to required yet.
Like you though, I'd like to look at a new presler system sometime in the future, probly a 940 or 950 and oc it alot. Don't think I'm contradicting you, I think me and you think alot alike in some ways from what you said. I just have trouble jumping on the dual core bandwagon as you said, since for awhile yet having a dual doesn't mean much. Once they have software that actually utilizes it, then that's a different story. Right now there are few things that a second core will even benefit from. Of course I'd rather get a dual if I was to get something now, but a cedar mill or something would treat someone right for awhile too.