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MSI 915P NEO-F & P4 506 Overclocking advice

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My current set up consist of a P4 506 CPU (stock H/S and fan)- MSI 915P NEO-F and a Sapphire X1600Pro 128mb PCI-e all of this is contained in my powermax case with 3 fans. As of now I can only get this processor up to 3.0Ghz @ 148 fsb. I try to push it higher but the system will not POST and I have to reset the BIOS. I've heard that this processor can overclock higher, but I am having difficulty. Also I find that this mobo doesn't have the overclocking features I've had on my previous mobo (MSI 645 MAX-E). Does anyone in this forum own a 915P mobo? I am looking for the memory divider and voltage control for the CPU, I can't seen to find under the BIOS "cell menu". Please help if you can or give me any other info that may help me overclock the configuration I have to higher speeds.
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post #2 of 7
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C'mon people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need some responses here about my configuration. I know there are people out there in this forum who have this motherboard and can give mw some insight as to how well it can overclock.
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I think what you may have run into is the so called overclock lock in the 915 chipset. Many will argue this but intel built it into the specs of the northbridge. They spec'd the voltage for the NB at the absolute minimum which allows for about a 10 percent overclock and no more. Unless you can boost the voltage of the NB in your bios, you are out of luck. Intel told the mfg's that if they changed it that it would void the intel warrenty on the chipset. Some mfg's adjusted for this and some didn't.

That being said, I have no idea if your board implemented the spec as is or changed it. But if you dont have bios options to change voltages, then they probably left it alone.
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I just looked at the manual for the neo2-f. They didn't have your manual on the website. It looks to me like you can change the NB and DDR and CPU voltages in the cell menu of your bios. You may be in luck!

Make sure you lock the pci and pcie. It looks like you can do that on the same bios page. And turn off spread spectrum (it is on by default on that board). Also check what the voltage spec is for that memory and do not exceed that. You may need to downspeed the memory too. Just so you dont push it too far.

All this being said, I am looking at the neo2 version bios. They may not have put these options in your board. Look for that Cell menu in the bios. That is where it will be.
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Thanks for your input. I believe my motherboard has the Award BIOS and is different than the BIOS on the NEO-F2 which has an AMI BIOS. I beleive the AMI BIOS has the option to adjust the Vcore and the Award BIOS deosn't. Again thanks for your input.
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post #6 of 7
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Thanks for all your replys. I probably will upgrade my memory to DDR400, maybe this will allow me to overclock my CPU to higher speeds on my current mobo. Due to my Mobo not having the abilty to adjust the Vcore and clock divider this would be my one and only option.
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post #7 of 7
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Okay, I need info on this Mobo. From what everyone says I should be able to get my processor(P4 506) to higher clock speeds with my mobo. Currently I have it at 3.0Ghz (150 X 20). When I go higher my comp doen't POST.


I've looked for the clock divider and vcore setting and there isn't any. The MSI website I looked at stated this board having the "Core Cell" technology, it doesn't. It has in the BIOS the "Core Cell" entry, but once inside I can only adjust the FSB setting, Memory voltage(2.XX+), and PCI-e voltage(1.XX+).


How do I lock the PCI-e frequency on this board? I originally had 512mb DDR333 memory and went and bought 1gb DDR400 to see if this would cure the problem and it hasn't.


I have talked to the MSI tech geeks and let them know that the website listed inacurate info about this mobo and it has since been changed and no longer lists "Core Cell" and "Dynamic Overclocking Technology" as a feature on this mobo.


My BIOS is the Award Phoenix 3.5. Can anyone give any suggestions on how to get a higher overclock with the MSI 915P NEO-F. What am I missing other than this board really having the "Intel overclock lock".
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Pentium 4 2.66Ghz@4.00Ghz ABIT AG8 ATI X1600PRO 256MB 1024Mb Patriot DDR400 
Hard DriveOSMonitorKeyboard
MAXTOR 133Mhz 30GB/80GB Windows XP Pro SP2 CTL 19" Inland Wireless 
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