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post #11 of 23
seems like a solid build to begin with, i like the motherboard choice, however, DON'T get 8gb of memory

This is because it puts ALOT of strain on the IMC in the CPU to run all four DIMMS (it is of course doable, I'm using 4x1gb OCZ sticks right now) It will just hurt overclocking a bit, i can't get my 955 C3 to do more than 3.8Ghz, However with the new memory controllers in the thubans it helped alot.

It's up to you, whether you are going to be doing hard core OCing or not, I just wanted to bring it to your attention
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post #12 of 23
i would switch form the rip jaws to the eco's lower volts means you can have a lil more fun with them
plus there about the same price
    
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post #13 of 23
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seems like a solid build to begin with, i like the motherboard choice, however, DON'T get 8gb of memory

This is because it puts ALOT of strain on the IMC in the CPU to run all four DIMMS (it is of course doable, I'm using 4x1gb OCZ sticks right now) It will just hurt overclocking a bit, i can't get my 955 C3 to do more than 3.8Ghz, However with the new memory controllers in the thubans it helped alot.

It's up to you, whether you are going to be doing hard core OCing or not, I just wanted to bring it to your attention
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It's not 4 sticks of 2GB modules. It's 2 sticks of 4GB modules, so your point is moot.
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I went looking through and read some more of the AMD processors, and so I made some changes: namely the CPU, Mobo, Memory amount, and Graphics card (due to the money saved... haha)

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz --> AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD7 AM3 AMD 890FX --> GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD5 AM3 AMD 890FX

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB)

For the Memory, should I get 2 x 2GB or 1 x 4GB?

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1

Since the Mobo is now smaller, is this really necessary? Any suggestions

Hard Drive: Intel X25-M Mainstream 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS 2TB 7200 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

Cooling Fan: Scythe YASYA SCYS-1000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler --> Thermalright TRUE Black 120Rev.C CPU Cooler

Power Supply: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80

I would like to keep this Power supply, but I would take a look at any suggestions. For example, my friend suggested Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case.

Video/Graphics Card: MSI R5770 Hawkadeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 --> ASUS EAH5850 DirectCU TOP/2DIS/1GD5 Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro)

CD/DVD Drive: LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner

Keep the comments coming and I am seeing some pretty good sig rigs with the 1055t.
Once again, thanks!
post #15 of 23
Why 8GB of Ram? Do you do video editing / 3d rendering?
post #16 of 23
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I am doing video editing, but not necessarily 3d.

Apologies, but I guess I didn't cross the memory on the last post. I am going down to 4GB, but deciding either 2x2GB or 1x4GB.
post #17 of 23
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I am doing video editing, but not necessarily 3d.

Apologies, but I guess I didn't cross the memory on the last post. I am going down to 4GB, but deciding either 2x2GB or 1x4GB.
The guy above said, 4 sticks is harder on the IMC than 2. Go with a 2 x 2GB kit.
post #18 of 23
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So, I decided on 2x2GB for the memory, but deciding between ECO and Ripjaws. I remember reading somewhere that AMD mobos don't do down to 1.35V and so it wouldn't be much of an advantage for my board. Is that true?

And I'm still thinking about changing my case/PSU...

Thanks
post #19 of 23
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So, I decided on 2x2GB for the memory, but deciding between ECO and Ripjaws. I remember reading somewhere that AMD mobos don't do down to 1.35V and so it wouldn't be much of an advantage for my board. Is that true?

And I'm still thinking about changing my case/PSU...

Thanks
no its not true i had mine down to 1.35 g skill will walk you through anything you need over the phone i called and got as live tech on the 2 ring fastest ive ever goten to a tech

we had some issues with my mobo and cpu not letting the ram get to specs but thats not the rams fault

im currently at 1600mhz with 1.45(i think) and 9-9-9-24 timings
    
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post #20 of 23
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Hey,
So, I have been an Intel user for most of my life, but I'm really liking the 1090T CPU from AMD. Here's what I'm looking at so far. I was wondering if I am missing anything (should I get more fans? SATA cables? Etc.)

Oh, and if anything doesn't look compatible, just leave a note. Open to recommendations as well, thanks!

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T or 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz - A 1055T will work and OC about as well as a 1090T but that's your choice I guess.

Mobo: GIGABYTE GA-890FXA-UD7 AM3 AMD 890FX Consider the ASUS Crosshair IV Formula, it's had great results with x6 chips.

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws ECO Series 8GB (4 x 2GB)

Case: COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1

Hard Drive: Intel X25-M Mainstream 2.5" 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) Good choice, but the OCZ Vertex 2's with Sandforce controllers can be had for cheaper and have much faster write times and similar read times (the 50GB one is lower in price - and though by not much, you won't be using that much space on that SSD anyway. My optimized OS + programs still leave about 50GB/74GB recognized on my SSD as free space.

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda XT ST32000641AS 2TB 7200 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive Two hard drives. Don't put them in RAID 0 either; have all the project files on one hard drive and then render to a different drive. I was recommended that and plan to try it someday. Or you could go for 3 hard drives (two in RAID 0 [which is two drives combined and write-alternated for high performance] for data, a separate to write to). You can also get even more drives for RAID 1 (which is a sort of backup process that makes editing much safer if you're a professional - basically one drive is cloned to another so if one fails you can work off the other one).

Cooling Fan: Scythe YASYA SCYS-1000 120mm Sleeve CPU CoolerCoolermaster Hyper 212 (if you can find for ~$20 or less), Xigmatek Dark Knight or Corsair H50 would be much better coolers. Thermalright TRUE Black 120Rev.C CPU Cooler = good choice!

Power Supply: COOLER MASTER Silent Pro RSA00-AMBAJ3-US 1000W ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V v2.92 SLI Ready 80 That's ok but go with a Corsair, Seasonic, Antec or Silverstone if possible. Also, your rig will probably not need 1KW of power with a ~5770 range video card, 650-750W would be enough.

Video/Graphics Card: MSI R5770 Hawkadeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 Something from nVidia

CD/DVD Drive: LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner Don't just get a blu-ray burner, get a blu-ray burner AND a second DVD burner. That way, not only can you have the faster speeds of a native DVD burner at hand, but you also have blu-ray burning and direct DVD-to-DVD or CD-to-CD burning for making moar copies.

Once again, thanks!
I see you're into video editing too I edit with a specific, powerful set of tools including: Sony Vegas Pro 9.0, Sony DVD Architect Pro, MediaCoder x64, vReveal, GIMP and Audacity.

For video editing I can definitely say something about that rig.... the AM3/Phenom II x6 platform is a great, future proof, high-performance platform featuring performance similar to the i7 series and much better futureproofing (AMD's bulldozer 4-8 core CPU's come out next year and are AM3 compatible, so good upgrade options )

I suggested an nVidia card because many applications suited for video editing/encoding such as the Badaboom GPU transcoder [or MediaCoder's GPU transcoder], MotionDSP vReveal video enhancer and even Adobe CS5 [CS5 on GPU works on ATI as well] are optimized to use nVidia's CUDA GPU acceleration. I can make do even with a GTS 250 in these tasks, and my GTS 250 runs my two monitors quite fine.

And the ECO's... well.... I had great results with them, so... Most AMD mobo's will not go down below 1.5v, but the G.Skill ECO can run with up to 1.5v and 1.65v on good cooling, and at that voltage can even be overclocked/tightened [timings] fairly well. My mobo won't go down below 1.6v but my ECO's run ok at this voltage.

Also, definitely go with 8GB of RAM whether 4x2GB or 2x4GB. Take my word for it, I can barely video edit (and multitask sometimes) with just 4GB and I'll be doubling my RAM really soon.
Edited by xd_1771 - 7/11/10 at 9:03pm
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