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It seems from casually looking around that Vista is going to be followed up with new proccessors on different sockets on smaller proccesses, a new graphical interface and if I might put the cart in front of the horse a bit, new memory standards like DDR2. I was thinking of a new PCI-E build but I'd hate to spend 1k to 1.5k on a new system especialy since it's lookn like none of the parts from a new build will cary over.
So is it best to stay on my AGP and get a 6800GS/7800GS, about $200/300 or get a cheap PCI-E mobo and a 7800GT and a meatier PSU to handle the bigger card cause mine is near max with my OC. Of course option 2 will be around 400-500.
I hate buying into tech that has a real forseeable end to it and I ended up AGP last year only after the cable volted my mobo/mem but my vid card was gay but working. 4 kids means I am on a tight budget so consider that but also consider I'd like to play CoD2 with DX9 enabled and not have the smoke pull my fps to the floor.
My wife is fine with any decision but I don t wanna be sad when the shiny new stuff comes out and I spent my load already and am on my "you need to wait to build a new one speech" which I would understand.
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You can go spendy on a new motherboard and processor, get 2GB of RAM, but wait on a decent video card. Unless you want a new socket, then just don't buy anything until summer.
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I was a few clicks away from going dual core with the 1MBx2 cache with a nice set off ddr533 yada yada yada but then all this dx10, vista, 65nm proccess, 4 cores, ddr2 and I took my finger off the trigger and said hmm. Famous last words. I'm uncomfortable with my current set up but it might be a beat vid card gettn my goat. I m a very patient man but I hate buying stuff thats old before the delivery arrives. 1500 today spent compaired to what I might be able to build next year same time is the question. How big will the gap be?
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I'm kinda in the same boat as you MtDew, I have been slowly buying and sellling parts in an attempt to upgrade my computer to something that truly makes me happy. With the upcoming release of Vista and DX10, I am totally confused on what to do. I am staring at a 7900gt right now on newegg, forcing myself not to buy it.

I am actually running a beta version of Vista right now, and it is pretty sweet....but there are a lot of drivers that I can't find. I don't see how the 939 socket is suddenly going to become obsolete.......at least I hope not.

But we have all seen the evolution of computers for the last 20 years, there will always be something new by the end of the day.
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I would wait...actually I am waiting. I got an xbox 360 to keep me entertained until then.
     
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Man does this sound familiar. I'd just bought a 7800GS to tide me over till DX10 and Vista come out and have several months to settle in so 1-2+ years.

If I were you I'd get the 6800GS/7800GS and just wait...your current rig is not exactly a weak machine and if you have the stomach to play COD2 on a 9550 then I'd imagine you could hold out on all the dual core tech before there is stuff that "required" it.

A 6800GS/7800GS is a phenomenal leap from what you currently have and your system is up to date enough to keep it well fed although you should post more details about your PSU so we can help advise on you whether to upgrade that as well just in case.
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The power supply was purchaced 2 builds back for a Athlon 1.4 and wasn t really thought about other than the 500w rating to keep 4 drives running well. That was then. Without knowing what kind it is, so generic all the print is foriegn, I can tell you that at my profile settings it is fine without issue. If I run it 285x8.5 or try going above 260x9 Cpu-z shows mad power flux. I had both pass prime 95 for 8+ hours but after 3 weeks at the higher setting the fans started running sluggish and drives seemed to spin slower. I pulled back and bam every thing is solid again. I had trouble getting both high FSB and memory rates at the same time and when more voltage was applied the board wouldn t post. I m guessing that its a one 12v rail hovering around 20 amps give or take a few, but thats just a familiarity guess.

I'm thinking that the 6800gs will still be OK power wise but Im thinking the 7800GS might push me where I d either need to get a new PSU, which wouldn t be a bad thing just an additional cost and God only knows if Vista certified boards will require a new PSU like some PCI-E-SLI boards do, so that might not even be future proof. And to boot the thought of how crippled the GS seems to the GT on PCI-E and evga has 350 ish bundles of mobo/7800gt the 7800gs seems like spinning wheels. But then again going to PCI-E when vista might use a new graphical interface puts me on the fence again next year. UUrrrgghhh my brain hurts. How is the 7800gs on power?

Funny thing is in dx7 mode @ 1024x768 all textures high no aa and trilinear I pull an avg 60 fps with some cfg tweaks like no ejecting brass, wall marks off, lowered Dlights etc. The smoke kills me to the 30's but hell I wanna see it in DX9 with some aa and stuff. It looks alot like wolfenstien as it is now just more refined.

As for the 939 socket I was speculating that when AMD went to the 65nm proccess and 4 cores that a new socket would come along to handle the new archetecture. Maybe they will be on 939 as well but like I said it was pure speculation using Murphy's law as a model cause I notice that maybe my name is Murphy sometimes.
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Surely to God there will not be a need for a new graphical interface because of Vista. It seems like as big of a market as Nvidia and ATI has they wouldn't be selling millions of PCI-E cards if it was going to change a few months later. As for the CPU socket....well it might change. But think about it, 939 has the FX60, and it is a thousand dollars....I think if a guy has a nice solid motheboard with a PCI-E slot and a couple of gigs of RAM, you should be okay for at least a couple of years.

I just bought a new motherboard. I was going to buy a processor, but I am going to wait a couple of months on that I think....and I may wait a little longer on the video card. The thing aobut it is, you can buy a decent video card on ebay (like a 6800gt) that does pretty damn good on most games, and sell it to someone else a few months down the road for not a whole lot less than you paid for it.

I have a good PSU, and a good motherboard, a decent video card, and plenty or RAM. I am going to sit back and see if the dual cores come down in price....and then maybe buy a 7900gt.

I guess basically what I am trying to say is that you can buy what you want and enjoy it now, and not lose a whole lot of money if you just sell your stuff and upgrade every few months.
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There has been some very nice 939 stuff in the forsale section... just a consideration.
Also...
See the link... CPU $139, MB $70-120, TT Big Typhoon about $55 (not in link) ... great start for a powerful system.
BTW That ASRock has done some members very well
Add in a 7900GT @ $300 and a NUUO550 @ about $80 ... use some of your old stuff and XP SP2 and you'll have a very nice system
Vista is a vacuume which sucks up money and RAM resources... DX10 won't be any big deal for some time.
    
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After sitting and reading I think my best bet is to go the 6800/7800 GS route and stand tight till I see what next years offering from AMD will bring. I don t wanna get bogged down wondering if something I m buying is gonna hold on a new build and I think either of those 2 cards should cruise me a year to 18 months. Maybe a good PSU that can work for me now and be exported to a new build would be a good thing. If I purchased a PSU considering PCI-e as a next build what would be a solid choice in the 100 range that I could use now to up my OC and pull swap in a new build next year? Is the 100 difference worth it performance wise for the 7800 or am I talking a few extra frame rate on a high aa or resolution difference or would a nice 2gigs of ddr500 and a 6800 be a better combo performance wise. The ram I have now is 2x512 running at 425.4mhzddr,dual ch. 2,5-3-3-7 T1. Not the greatest but not bad for mismatched value ddr400 I suppose and worth considering in the equation of better performance. I guess I wanna kick what I have up for 300-400. If anyone has a better way to spend 400 speak up cause the money is available to me on the 20th and I ve been a good patient husband who really needs to buy something ...
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