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post #1791 of 6481
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He has been lucky with the brands. They work well, so what? That was not my point.

My proof that 2x2GB and 2x1GB will overclock better than 4x2GB you will have when my RAM arrives.

It will be 2x2GB and 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC 6400 VS 4x2GB Crucial Ballistix PC 6400. First setup will overclock great.

And you say you can't compare P35 VS P45? Bull****, P35 is not that different. And it shows the same symptoms, 2x2GB and 2x1GB is easier to overclock than 4x2GB.

And of course, it may be that another brand of 4x2GB would have clocked better on my board. This was not the point. My two 8GB sets are not working well on this board, when overclocking. And they are on the QVL. Listed as ok in all slots.

And yes, the P5Q Pro/Turbo have issues with 4x2GB RAM. Do a search on google. But as I've said, some brands may work better then others. But there is no doubt these boards have trouble with 4x2GB in general.

End of story. You will get your proof soon enough.
If there are RAM kits that work the same either in 2x2GB or 4x2GB on a P5Q Pro Turbo for example then there's no problem with a board if it doesn't work with your 4x2GB RAM kit..

It's just a compatibility issue..

And If PanicProne for example managed to get the same OC with both 4GB an 8GB of system memeory then where's the problem??

Yes people had problems but if you consider a number of sold P5Q series mobos and possible number of happy users who have been runnig 8GB setups then that number of frustrated users is negligible..

If P45 had such rate of faliure with 8GB RAM then I'm sure there would've been a recall of P45 mobos just like P67 had..

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KingT,

I was not saying P45's in general have problems with 4x2GB RAM. I say the P5Q Pro/Turbo has it when compared to many other P45 boards. Do a search and you will see.

Neither I was saying that some brands or mixed brands of 4x2GB could infact overclock well in these boards. My point was that in general P5Q Pro/Turbo is notorious for not overclocking well with 4x2GB mem. Even QVL mem. They are also known for having problems with 4x2GB at stock levels.

My other point is that 2x2GB and 2x1GB vs 4x2GB, same brand the 6GB-4 slots config will overclock just as well or almost as good as 2x2GB, whereas the 4x2GB will overclock real bad in these motherboards. And again, some brands with 4x2GB may overclock well. This statement I will prove when I get those memsticks.

My two 8GB kits, which are on the QVL will not overclock well at all on this board. But if I run them in a 3x2GB setup they will clock very well.

You cannot compare 4x1GB and 2x2 + 2x1GB with 4x2GB. Even if all slots are filled. 4x1GB and 2x2 + 2x1GB in general tend to overclock better than 4x2GB in most motherboards. I've tried all of these configs in several motherboards.

The difference from many other motherboards when compared to the P5Q Pro/Turbo is that P5Q Pro's overclock with 4x2GB tends to get crippled severely, while many other motherboards only get a slightly lower overclock.

As I've said, I will prove my statement. You stated that 2x2GB + 2x1GB stresses just as much as 4x2GB. This is not true. Not by a long shot. Do a search on Google. Or try it yourself.
    
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What's an exact product's name,manufacturer & model no. of your RAM kit?

Are those sticks on the pics of your rig (without HS)??

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post #1794 of 6481
KingT,

Over to other subjects. I'm testing 4050MHz again with 2x2GB. Last time I did it, where one core failed at 4 hours + I was running RAM on 1080MHz. This was most probably the cause of it.

Running RAM at 900 1:1 now. Only using 1.26v for NB and 1.24vFSB x0.63GTL. Looks good so far...

When I get my two 2x1GB Ballistix, I will throw them in also. Pretty sure I can use same overclock.
    
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What's an exact product's name,manufacturer & model no. of your RAM kit?

Are those sticks on the pics of your rig (without HS)??

CHEERS..
Using the Ballistix with heat spreader now. BL25664AA80A.16FE5 800 4-4-4-12 2.0v.

That picture showed mye Geil Black Dragon 8GB Kit. Which are also on the QVL
    
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hehehe.. you guys have been fighting with this memory battle for 2 months or something
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Also, when overclocking with my Geil Black Dragon 8GB and 4x2GB Crucial Ballistix, they seemed fine at 3.825GHz mem at 850. However, when I powered down my system and let it cool down, started system and booted Windows, Prime95 Large FFTs would give me an error after a few seconds. If I then used TurboV to change RAM volts NB volts or whatever, up or down, system was fine again, and could go through every stability test for hours....

If I powered down again, started system, booted Windows... same thing would happen again. It only happens when using 4x2GB. But not at stock speeds.

Read something interesting in a Norwegian forum. A guy with a P5Q Deluxe and 8GB RAM had to 'warm' up his computer after a powerdown. Or else his 8GB RAM config would not be stable. He had to enter bios after powering up and let it warm up before he could enter Windows.
    
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hehehe.. You guys have been fighting with this memory battle for 2 months or something :d
lol! :d
    
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Using the Ballistix with heat spreader now. BL25664AA80A.16FE5 800 4-4-4-12 2.0v.

That picture showed mye Geil Black Dragon 8GB Kit. Which are also on the QVL
Does it work well on stock 800MHz 4-4-4-12 2.0V?

If it does then I don't see any problem..(neither would Asus or Crucial)..

There's only guarantie on QVL that they'll work on that exact freq and latencies..

No overclockong included in QVL warranty on any product..

A great number of those reports across the net of 8GB sysytem memory issues involve failing running the system with 8GB RAM at STOCK settings..

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So my final solution will be to run a 2x2GB + 2x1GB = 6GB Crucial Ballistix. This will give me piece of mind and same overclock as 2x2GB. If not for this solution I would probably have battled and come back to that 8GB RAM testing for the rest of my life. And in the end, It would have destroyed me and sent me straight to a nuthouse.
    
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