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Poll Results: Do you prefer the new OCN?

 
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post #2421 of 6461
LLC for me in the P5Q-E is not at good thing at all when overclocking.

at 4050MHz I have found that by disabling LLC I'm totally stable in IBT (Max Mem) when V-core is at 1.425v in bios. This drops all the way down to 1.312v in IBT at maximum load. This is perfectly stable. If using LLC I have to use 1.325v in bios. This makes IBT at max load about 1.34 volts. For lighter load it drops much and can cause instability. At 1.3v bios LLC enabled Windows would not even boot. However, I'm sure it would have been stable in IBT, as that would have given me 1.32v + under full IBT Load.

So by not using LLC and compensating the V-drop I get a more stable system with IBT getting away with a lower V-core.

Testing right now at 9x 460FSB = 4140MHz@V-Core 1.45v bios. IBT at full load is about 1.336v (Somtimes at 1.328v) at full load (Max mem). Now, if using LLC enabled at this speed I would have to select 1.35v in bios. Which gives a huge IBT Load volt. And not stable at Lighter Load.

I thought this CPU needed about 1.34v full IBT Load at 4 - 4.05GHz. Turns out I get away with 1.328v at 4140MHz! While ensuring stability at lighter Load.

So for me, with this board, LLC is really not a good thing while overclocking.
    
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post #2422 of 6461
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Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
LLC for me in the P5Q-E is not at good thing at all when overclocking.

at 4050MHz I have found that by disabling LLC I'm totally stable in IBT (Max Mem) when V-core is at 1.425v in bios. This drops all the way down to 1.312v in IBT at maximum load. This is perfectly stable. If using LLC I have to use 1.325v in bios. This makes IBT at max load about 1.34 volts. For lighter load it drops much and can cause instability. At 1.3v bios LLC enabled Windows would not even boot. However, I'm sure it would have been stable in IBT, as that would have given me 1.32v + under full IBT Load.

So by not using LLC and compensating the V-drop I get a more stable system with IBT getting away with a lower V-core.

Testing right now at 9x 460FSB = 4140MHz@V-Core 1.45v bios. IBT at full load is about 1.336v (Somtimes at 1.328v) at full load (Max mem). Now, if using LLC enabled at this speed I would have to select 1.35v in bios. Which gives a huge IBT Load volt. And not stable at Lighter Load.

I thought this CPU needed about 1.34v full IBT Load at 4 - 4.05GHz. Turns out I get away with 1.328v at 4140MHz! While ensuring stability at lighter Load.

So for me, with this board, LLC is really not a good thing while overclocking.
You need to set your LOAD Vcore,LLC ON from IBT/P95 to be your IDLE 24/7 Vcore with LLC ON for maximum stability..

Simply LLC does not kick in in light load apps so your CPU is actually running with less Vcore than it needs to be IBT/P95 stable and it couses BSOD..

My Q9550 is P95/IBT stable @ 3.9GHz

LLC=ON 1.2875V in BIOS and 1.28V LOAD

So to be stable at IDLE/light load apps I needed to go back to BIOS and upp Vcore to 1.30625V so when I boot to OS I have 1.28V as my IDLE Vcore (1.294V LOAD)..

Since I have done that I have never had a BSOD again and that was 15 months ago..

I would rather have a slight higher LOAD Vcore than a much higher idle Vcore (due compensation for Vdroop) as my rig is not stressed 24/7 and it actually runs on IDLE Vcore 80% of the time..

P.S.: On my P5Q Pro with LLC=ON, load Vcore never goes above value set in the BIOS,not even when I have used more than 1.45V..

CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 3/21/11 at 9:00am
     
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post #2423 of 6461
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Originally Posted by KingT View Post
You need to set your LOAD Vcore,LLC ON from IBT/P95 to be your IDLE 24/7 Vcore with LLC ON for maximum stability..

Simply LLC does not kick in in light load apps so your CPU is actually running with less Vcore than it needs to be IBT/P95 stable and it couses BSOD..

My Q9550 is P95/IBT stable @ 3.9GHz

LLC=ON 1.2875V in BIOS and 1.28V LOAD

So to be stable at IDLE/light load apps I needed to go back to BIOS and upp Vcore to 1.30625V so when I boot to OS I have 1.28V as my IDLE Vcore (1.294V LOAD)..

Since I have done that I have never had a BSOD again and that was 15 months ago..

I would rather have a slight higher LOAD Vcore than a much higher idle Vcore (due compensation for Vdroop) as my rig is not stressed 24/7 and it actually runs on IDLE Vcore 80% of the time..

P.S.: On my P5Q Pro with LLC=ON, load Vcore never goes above value set in the BIOS,not even when I have used more than 1.45V..

CHEERS..
Slightly higher Load V-core? LOL! Read my post again. For me, with this board it is best to disable LLC when overclocking. Bigger difference between load and Idle with LLC on than your board. Read other people with P5Q-E found this same conclusion.

Even if my V-core is unnessacery high at Light Load with LLC off, the temps at light Load are just fine.
    
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post #2424 of 6461
interesting test. I thought there would be a little bit more difference. Maybe it would have been bigger if QX9650 and 9770 was overclocked to 4GHz+.. ?

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Man im still looking for one of these for sale as pro ver. let me know guys thanks
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post #2426 of 6461
Looks like I may have found the correct voltages to get my Pro Turbo stable at 500MHz FSB. CPU multiplier is currently set to 6 for stock clock speed and VCore is at VID.

FSB Frequency: 500.00 MHz
CPU Voltage: 1.22500 V
CPU GTL REF: 0.63x
CPU PLL: 1.580 V
FSB Term. Volt.: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 2.100 V
NB Volt: 1.360 V
SB Volt: 1.100 V
SB PCIE: 1.500 V
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal

I may be able to back a couple of those voltages down a notch or two, but this tested stable in Prime95 for 13 hours. I was also able to play Borderlands all evening last night with no issues. The sound was glitchy for 2 or 3 seconds at one point, but that may have been due to the game itself.

I plan on running this overclock 24/7 with a multiplier of 8 or 8.5 until the end of this year. My e8400 is a c0 revision. If I recall correctly I should be able to hit 4GHz with a safe VCore. 4.2GHz may be a bit too much to run at for 24/7 usage.
     
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Originally Posted by Improvidus View Post
Looks like I may have found the correct voltages to get my Pro Turbo stable at 500MHz FSB. CPU multiplier is currently set to 6 for stock clock speed and VCore is at VID.

FSB Frequency: 500.00 MHz
CPU Voltage: 1.22500 V
CPU GTL REF: 0.63x
CPU PLL: 1.580 V
FSB Term. Volt.: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 2.100 V
NB Volt: 1.360 V
SB Volt: 1.100 V
SB PCIE: 1.500 V
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Clock Skew: Normal
NB Clock Skew: Normal

I may be able to back a couple of those voltages down a notch or two, but this tested stable in Prime95 for 13 hours. I was also able to play Borderlands all evening last night with no issues. The sound was glitchy for 2 or 3 seconds at one point, but that may have been due to the game itself.

I plan on running this overclock 24/7 with a multiplier of 8 or 8.5 until the end of this year. My e8400 is a c0 revision. If I recall correctly I should be able to hit 4GHz with a safe VCore. 4.2GHz may be a bit too much to run at for 24/7 usage.
Nice Improvidus!

Looking forward to see some screenshots and validation when you get it to run @ 4GHz!
     
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Hey guys i need some help with configure Prime95 correctly.

My PC:

E6750 2.66Ghz STOCK
2x2 GB Corsair XMS2 800 Mhz CL5 1.8v
GTX 285 EBGA
P5Q PRO
Win XP Pro SP3.

I wanna O/C my CPU to 3.2 Ghz.So it will be 400x8=3.2Ghz.Memory will be on stock speed and timings right?.

I need help to configure P95.I wanna check my CPU stability.For now i dont need to check my ram because it will be run at stock speed.

I downloaded Prime P95 from http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft/

Thanks you for helping.My English is really bad , but i think you can understand me guys.

Numer of torture test threads to run must be on 2?

And yeah... how many minutes/hours?


Edited by Darekk1990 - 3/21/11 at 8:32pm
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Hey guys i need some help with configure Prime95 correctly.



Numer of torture test threads to run must be on 2?

And yeah... how many minutes/hours?
Yes, you run a test for each core. Since you have a dual core CPU, you would run 2 threads.

For such a moderate overclock I would just run Prime95 Blend for a few hours. Don't change anything, just start up P95, make sure blend is selected, hit OK to start the test, and see if it will run for a few hour without failing.

If it does not fail, fire up a few games and have some fun. If you don't crash, your good. If you do start pushing your overclock higher, which should be pretty easy with that CPU and the P5Q, you will want to run P95 Blend for longer periods of time, maybe 10-12 hours.
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I have my processor running at 4.0GHz now. Appears to be stable after 20 passes at Maximum on IBT v2.5. My temps are a bit high as I had to go up to 1.38125 VCore in BIOS. CPU-Z reads 1.368V idle and 1.376V load.

I blame the high temps on the fact that I am using an Arctic Freezer 7 Pro with Arctic Silver 5. I could probably get better temperatures with a more expensive cooler. Any type of liquid cooling probably won't work with this old case I'm using.

Remounting my cooler may possibly help with the temps. The heatsink was getting warm, but I don't remember it being hot to the touch on my aBit IP35 Pro either.

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