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post #2441 of 6459
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Originally Posted by KingT;12822356 
FSB: RAM = 1:1 is the best option for stability..

Now if you really want to go fast and dirty to see if your OC even stands a chance in P95 Large FFT try this:

1. Lounch P95

2. Select Large FFT

3. then select CUSTOM

4. Enter for Min FFT size problem = 320K & Max FFT size problem = 320K and leave Time to run each FFT size (in minutes) = 15min

I have found that this particular size problem is the heaviest for the OC and detects any weaknesses much faster..

If you pass at least 2h of this test then your OC would probably pass a 12h of a standard 15min per size P95 Large FFT test..

CHEERS..

I've already gone through Large FFT's. And I use 1:1. Blend failed at 913MHz with 8GB RAM. As I've said, trying Ket's bios now. As in above post. 913MHz 5-5-5-15-1.94v

Thanks for that Prime95 Large FFT's suggestion though smile.gif

Edit: It seems Ket's bios are actually helping me in Blend! smile.gif As I've said, my Crucial Ballistix 2GB sticks are not in the original P5Q-E's bios QVL list, but in Ket's bios he has added the P5Q Pro Turbo memtable which contains my RAM.

This was probably what caused the BSOD in Large FFT's this night, when at 4.14GHz. RAM was thought to be stable, but was infact not. So when I backed down to 4.1GHz Large FFT's was OK, but not Blend. Probably because I tested it OK with Ket's bios earlier on and flashed back because I thought this bios did not do nothing for me. Yeah... Nice..

Edit2: Jepp, Ket's bios is no doubt doing wonders for my RAM. Clocked it up to 934MHz now. Running Blend. So far so good. So I will have to do my testing over again. 4.2GHz + here I come. Not using IBT anymore. Thank you Ket! biggrin.gif
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I ran Prime95 Large FFT's for almost 5 hours last night before i stopped it in the morning. This was at 460FSB x9. However, I've been figting with some Blend failures. I use Blend, custom and type in 5000MB RAM. Even at 456 x9 it failed. Didn't help to increase V-core. When using the 15 min test it always stopped upon error after about 20 minutes. Always on Core 1. Always when the test entered the small FFT's. It stopped upon error soon after the 8KB FFT test begun. So i Isolated the test to only 8 - 12KB FFT's. And it lasted 10 + mins tops each time.

What I found was that it was infact GTL/vFSB problems. After I sat VVT and GTL 1/3 at AUTO it seems to run fine.

So it seems, Large FFT's isn't the only test needed for FSB/GTL testing.
    
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Originally Posted by turrican9;12826008 
KingT

I ran Prime95 Large FFT's for almost 5 hours last night before i stopped it in the morning. This was at 460FSB x9. However, I've been figting with some Blend failures. I use Blend, custom and type in 5000MB RAM. Even at 456 x9 it failed. Didn't help to increase V-core. When using the 15 min test it always stopped upon error after about 20 minutes. Always on Core 1. Always when the test entered the small FFT's. It stopped upon error soon after the 8KB FFT test begun. So i Isolated the test to only 8 - 12KB FFT's. And it lasted 10 + mins tops each time.

What I found was that it was infact GTL/vFSB problems. After I sat VVT and GTL 1/3 at AUTO it seems to run fine.

So it seems, Large FFT's isn't the only test needed for FSB/GTL testing.

I have never had a vFSB/GTL issue after passing 12h of P95 Large FFT..

And I have tested my OC also with 12h of BLEND and 12h of Small FFT..

A 8k size error can't be caused by vFSB/GTL becouse when I originally wanted to go for 3.9GHz (459 x 8.5) I have tested first with 12h of Small FFT and passed with easy.

But when I tested the same settings with Large FFT I have failed after 3h.

Becouse at that size of a problem (8k) CPU uses its own cache memory to store and calculate data and it doesn't use FSB link with a NB/RAM..

And I have tested it for threee times and failed around 3h mark..

So untill I have tuned vFSB/GTL I was only 12h Small FFT stable..

CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 3/22/11 at 10:44am
     
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Originally Posted by KingT;12826151 
I have never had a vFSB/GTL issue after passing 12h of P95 Large FFT..

And I have tested my OC also with 12h of BLEND and 12h of Small FFT..

A 8k size error can't be caused by vFSB/GTL becouse when I originally wanted to go for 3.9GHz (459 x 8.5) I have tested first with 12h of Small FFT and passed with easy.

But when I tested the same settings with Large FFT I have failed after 3h.

Becouse at that size of a problem (8k) CPU uses its own cache memory to store and calculate data and it doesn't use FSB link with a NB/RAM..

And I have tested it for threee times and failed around 3h mark..

So untill I have tuned vFSB/GTL I was only 12h Small FFT stable..

CHEERS..

I know, but this happened in my system Logical explanation is probably that CPU was at it's limit V-core wise, and once the GTL's was tuned properly it got away with lesser V-core on those 8KB FFT's. This is a known fact, some people experience they can get away with a little lower V-core if GTL's are tuned properly.

Another interesting thing... When Blending, custom and selecting 5000MB RAM and consentrating og that 8KB FFT it has shown to need more Load V-core VS IBT to be stable. I tried this with LLC on. I know, I upped V-core a bit for those FFT's to get the same full Load Volts that IBT produced. And actually, those 8KB FFT's need more Volts to be stable.

From my experience the last days, IBT is a joke. It's only good for producing ridiculous amounts of heat and not much else.
    
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post #2445 of 6459
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Originally Posted by turrican9;12826430 
From my experience the last days, IBT is a joke. It's only good for producing ridiculous amounts of heat and not much else.

Agreed..thumb.gif

There's nothing like a smell of a P95 in the morning..tongue.gif

P.S.: When I run BLEND i run it with standard amount of RAM..

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Originally Posted by KingT;12826637 
Agreed..thumb.gif

There's nothing like a smell of a P95 in the morning..tongue.gif

P.S.: When I run BLEND i run it with standard amount of RAM..

CHEERS..

I've found the problem!!! I have always left the GTL 1/3 lower than GTL 0/2. And always focused more on GTL 0/2 and just adding V-core and vFSB! What a misstake!

I was at GTL 0/2 x0.64 as usual and 1/3 at x.0.63 and just adding vFSB. I've seen others often run the 0/2 GTL a tad higer than 1/3. What a misstake not trying the other way around. Stupid me! This is very different from CPU to CPU of course.

Just for the kick of it I pushed it to x.067 at vFSB 1.36. And low and behold! Bios standard values for GTL 1/3 is infact x0.67 and x0.63 for GTL 0/2

Priming at 4230MHz now like it was nothing! Yeah! And I have struggled with this error at Core 1 in small FFT's for days! Even at 4100MHz I had problems.

Now I can begin finetuning this GTL. I'm sure it doesn't have to be that high. But with this brakethrough I get away with Lower V-core and can probably continue my journey upwards from 4230MHz!

By the way, I am just about finishing my rebuild of my secondary system, using the P5Q Pro Turbo and Q9400 wink.gif Will install Win7 in a while smile.gif



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4.0 GHz wasn't quite P95 stable overnight, but I had no issues while using my computer normally yesterday. Temps were about 18 degrees C cooler at peak in P95 vs IBT.

I bumped VCore one more notch to 1.3875v. Don't think I'll need to go too much higher for 12+ hours P95 stability.
     
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Sorry to interrupt, this just seems like the most appropriate place to post.
Since my rig decided that it doesnt want to load the OS without churning out a blue screen, I decided to start from a clean slate, and reinstall Windows.

I cant find the CD that came with the motherboard. (P5Q Pro Turbo) and after two days of searching, I cant find the driver I'm looking for. If anybody can help, can you send a PM my way?

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post #2449 of 6459
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Originally Posted by Malakai;12827981 
Sorry to interrupt, this just seems like the most appropriate place to post.
Since my rig decided that it doesnt want to load the OS without churning out a blue screen, I decided to start from a clean slate, and reinstall Windows.

I cant find the CD that came with the motherboard. (P5Q Pro Turbo) and after two days of searching, I cant find the driver I'm looking for. If anybody can help, can you send a PM my way?

Cheers

First welcome..

Now you can't receive or send PM's as you don't have enough posts on OCN..

Why would you need a motherboard CD when there's everything on Asus.com for you to download.. CLICK HERE

Just click on the motherboards and find a P5Q Pro TURBO,click on it and download what you need..

CHEERS..
     
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