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Just wonder how much more can my E5200 R0 be overclocked? Mine's overclocked to 4GHz with VCore at 1.4 (all else voltages set to minimum default) for quite a while... any suggested voltages to try to exceed the 4GHz mark stably?
     
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Originally Posted by ocman View Post
Just wonder how much more can my E5200 R0 be overclocked? Mine's overclocked to 4GHz with VCore at 1.4 (all else voltages set to minimum default) for quite a while... any suggested voltages to try to exceed the 4GHz mark stably?
1.40V is about the max I would go for 24/7..


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Just wonder how much more can my E5200 R0 be overclocked? Mine's overclocked to 4GHz with VCore at 1.4 (all else voltages set to minimum default) for quite a while... any suggested voltages to try to exceed the 4GHz mark stably?
If you have no fear, then push it to 1.45 - 1.5v... To be honest, I doubt you willl ruin anything. As long as you're cooling can cope with it.

I've been pushing things to the extreme. But then again, I'm no wuss

But each to his own, mate
    
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@ ocman

In the pursuit for speed I have killed a couple of RAM sticks in the past and recently my P5Q Pro,so trust me when I tell you it ain't no fun..

Especially if it's your only system then it's really not worth it..

You won't feel any extra speed going over 4GHz on that chip..


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Edited by KingT - 6/9/11 at 10:15pm
     
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thanks for the welcome

i've been playing around with strap frequencies lately, bumping it as low as possible definitely pays off. i was mucking around recently and got up to 425FSB, 4.6gHz and lowest strap freq that would put RAM speed at 1066 and managed to get a 12.031 (my fastest time so far) out of superpi before the setting went tits-up, crashed and wouldn't post anymore.

i realized then and there how nice it would be to have some DDR3 so that it would be possible to set the lowest strap freq, max out on RAM speed at 1666 instead of 1066 and truly rock out

I have to fight the urge to jump to another mobo for that DDR3 compatibility argghh. Ah well, I still have a bit of headroom if the rest of you are running such insane FSB speeds! What is the secret?
No secret really...its just having the right combination of hardware & settings.
That & a LOT of time spent researching, reading & Testing different settings to get the best results.

For example: Who wadda thought that combining my Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4 & G.SKILL-F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK RAM together would get such good memory throughput results, much less run together very well?
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Lots of "trial & error" testing & time...

Also your Ai Transaction Booster will effect your system's performance directly, so setting this to manual & trying to boot with the lowest Performance Level will speed things up & lower your system's latencies.
I have mine set to Performance Level 10 with all the Pull-in's Enabled.
This took my ram latency from the 70's to the high 50's.
So my SuperPI score also benefited.
(Pics below)

Another thing is your FSB speeds...the higher the better for throughput.
It does no good to run high memory speeds if your FSB can't process the data as fast
as its coming to it...kinda like forcing an Elephant through a Mouse hole...

My current settings are next to the SuperPI pics.
The only diff in the CPU-Z is its 501MHz FSB & the settings I'm currently at are 502MHz.
If you are wondering...that's the ROG CPU-Z version...you can download it from CPUID just like the other one.
http://www.cpuid.com/news/40-rog_cpu_z.html




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@ MUff1N


It's a great feeling to see 500MHz FSB every time when you start up CPU-Z..

I had my old E6750 @ 533MHz FSB x7 (1.30V) and used as 24/7 settings,damn that was fast..

Also I had used it @ 500 x 8 (1.45V) for 24/7 usage..

Good old days with my P5Q Pro..


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If you have no fear, then push it to 1.45 - 1.5v... To be honest, I doubt you willl ruin anything. As long as you're cooling can cope with it.

I've been pushing things to the extreme. But then again, I'm no wuss

But each to his own, mate
Hi turrican9, I've somewhat tested with higher VCore at higher freq. but none of the attempts show stability during stress tests... so I was looking for a set of BIOS values to try with VCore no more than 1.4V.

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@ ocman

In the pursuit for speed I have killed a couple of RAM sticks in the past and recently my P5Q Pro,so trust me when I tell you it ain't no fun..

Especially if it's your only system then it's really not worth it..

You won't feel any extra speed going over 4GHz on that chip..


CHEERS..
Hi KingT, you're right, I know the difference is is next to none. The difference would only be seen from benching... 2.5 to 4GHz vs 4GHz to 4.2GHz maybe...

P.S. I'm still thinking of a minor upgrade and get a good 775 quad for cheap... prefer new though... but I wouldn't mind getting a used one if it's in good working condition for dirt cheap...

I always try to hunt for bargains...
     
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It's a great feeling to see 500MHz FSB every time when you start up CPU-Z..

I had my old E6750 @ 533MHz FSB x7 (1.30V) and used as 24/7 settings,damn that was fast..

Also I had used it @ 500 x 8 (1.45V) for 24/7 usage..

Good old days with my P5Q Pro..


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Hi KingT, mind telling me what BIOS settings you are using for the P5QC to make the Q9550 E0 running at 4GHz? Pardon me if you have already done so...
     
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No secret really...its just having the right combination of hardware & settings.
That & a LOT of time spent researching, reading & Testing different settings to get the best results.

For example: Who wadda thought that combining my Corsair XMS2 TWIN2X2048-6400C4 & G.SKILL-F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK RAM together would get such good memory throughput results, much less run together very well?
But you don't know until you try testing it though...
Lots of "trial & error" testing & time...

Also your Ai Transaction Booster will effect your system's performance directly, so setting this to manual & trying to boot with the lowest Performance Level will speed things up & lower your system's latencies.
I have mine set to Performance Level 10 with all the Pull-in's Enabled.
This took my ram latency from the 70's to the high 50's.
So my SuperPI score also benefited.
(Pics below)

Another thing is your FSB speeds...the higher the better for throughput.
It does no good to run high memory speeds if your FSB can't process the data as fast
as its coming to it...kinda like forcing an Elephant through a Mouse hole...

My current settings are next to the SuperPI pics.
The only diff in the CPU-Z is its 501MHz FSB & the settings I'm currently at are 502MHz.
If you are wondering...that's the ROG CPU-Z version...you can download it from CPUID just like the other one.
http://www.cpuid.com/news/40-rog_cpu_z.html
Nice Pi score, 12.031 is the best I could get one time when I pushed up to 425 FSB but it wasn't stable. I saw some settings you used that I haven't tried messing with yet! Thanks, that gives me some ammo for another run at 450 FSB

this (CPU-Z link) is my current stable setting. Some upgrades to my watercooling loop arrived this week so I'm looking forward to installing that and hopefully seeing the CPU cooling cope with the extra heat
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Hi KingT, mind telling me what BIOS settings you are using for the P5QC to make the Q9550 E0 running at 4GHz? Pardon me if you have already done so...

Here are 4.0ghz (471MHz FSB)for you..

CPU Ratio Setting = 8.5x
FSB freq = 471MHz (460MHz depends on CPU)
STRAP=333
DRAM freq= 942MHz
DRAM TIMINGS=5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3||8-3-5-4-6-4-7||14-5-1-6-6


DRAM Static Read Control = AUTO (VERY IMPORTANT FOR STABILITY on this motherboard)
DRAM Dynamic Write Control = AUTO (VERY IMPORTANT FOR STABILITY on this motherboard)
DRAM READ TRAINING = AUTO (VERY IMPORTANT FOR STABILITY on this motherboard)
DRAM WITE TRAINING = AUTO (VERY IMPORTANT FOR STABILITY on this motherboard)
OC charger= AUTO (VERY IMPORTANT FOR STABILITY on this motherboard)
Ai Clock Twister = AUTO (VERY IMPORTANT FOR STABILITY on this motherboard)
AI Transaction booster= MANUAL
Performance Level = 10


Vcore=1.32V (what Chip needs to hit 4GHzGHz,add a bit if you crash)
CPU GTL = 0.61x
PLL=1.54V
FSB voltage=1.34V
DRAM voltage=1.92V (by memory specs or what it needs)
NBv=1.32V
SBv=1.1V
PCIE/SATA voltage=1.50V
CPU & PCIE Spread spectrum=Disable
CPU & NB skew=AUTO

Load Line Calibration=ENABLED

All options in CPU Configuration set @ DISABLE and CPU MULTI @ 8.5x..

Testing methodology:

1. First test these with 6x multi with P95 LARGE FFT for at least 6h (12h is ideal) and stock Vcore as your CPU would be running @ 450x6=2.7GHz..

If you pass 6hrs of P95 Large FFT then:

2. reboot to BIOS upp your Vcore and set MULTI to 8.5x..

3. If it doesn't boot keep adding Vcore untill it does..

4. Then in Windows test 450MHz FSB x8,5 =3.85GHz with Intel Burn Test for 20runs w/ max RAM and if you crash then just upp Vcore and test it again..

5. If you pass 6hrs of P95 LARGE FFT & 20 runs of IBT then you're ROCK SOLID..

KEEP YOUR CORE TEMPS UNDER 75C IN ANY STRESS TEST..

P.S.: My P5QC has given me 4GHz on my Q9550 so it OC's nicely but you need to have good RAM to play with as IT's REALLY PICKY..


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