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Poll Results: Do you prefer the new OCN?

 
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    Yes!
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    No!
  • 14% (13)
    Yes and No!
  • 34% (31)
    Don't give a damn about it! (LOL)
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post #4081 of 6473
Quote:
Originally Posted by turrican9 View Post
If any of you guys was in Norway, I could have sold you either a Q9400 or a Q9650 for cheap. I only need one of them for my secondary system.

The shipping is way to expensive when sending to other countries...

In fact, if any of you lived nearby, I would almost have given away my P5Q-E or P5Q PRO Turbo. They are worth very little to me, and not worth much in Norway.

However, Quad 775 CPU's are going overpriced here... However, I would have sold mine for a nice price...
I'm in Northern Ireland if that is close enough?

How much are you selling them for?

Thanks
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post #4082 of 6473
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maverickj View Post
Thanks guys

I'll see if I can get a cheap Q9550 / Q9650 on ebay.

Might just hang on to the E8400 as backup.

Mav
Hey Mav, while you are waiting on getting a quad you could really speed up your system setting it up the way I have it now.
Your memory should be able to run at 1004MHz with 5-5-5-15 timings & 2.1-2.2v.
Having your FSB set at 502 (2008MHz QDR) really increases your memory throughput!

These are my current settings...for my E8400-P5Q Pro Turbo OC.

E8400 4.0GHz OC (4016MHz)
502 X 8 (2008 FSB)
FSB strap: 333
Memory divider: 1:1 (1004MHz)
PCI-E: 100

CPU vCore: 1.33125v
FSB: 1.320v
NB: 1.400v (When ALL 4 memory slots are used, if only 2 use less NB voltage)
SB: 1.10v (minimum)
SB-PCIE: 1.500v (minimum)
CPU PLL: 1.580v
DRAM: 2.100v

C1E: Disabled (Enhanced Halt State)
EIST: Disabled (Enhanced Intel SpeedStep Technology)
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Performance Level: 10
Separate RAM Pull-ins Enabled
Loadline Calibration: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Light
CPU GTL Ref: 0.63x
CPU Clock Skew: 200ps
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized


Edited by MUff1N - 7/27/11 at 8:10am
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post #4083 of 6473
Hey Muffin,

How are you liking that V6 GT? I really like mine. Runs super cool
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post #4084 of 6473
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Hey Muffin,

How are you liking that V6 GT? I really like mine. Runs super cool
Works like it needs to & keeps my CPU running nice & cool even at 4GHz.
Also, since its a 200w cooler it can be used for the newer Core series quads when I finally do upgrade to that kind of a system.
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post #4085 of 6473
hi guys.. would u swap p5q pro for deluxe one...
thx
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post #4086 of 6473
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Originally Posted by Erper View Post
hi guys.. would u swap p5q pro for deluxe one...
thx
P5Q Deluxe is the superior board. It will be much better as to mem overclocking, and using all 4 slots. It also has advanced GTL tweaking for Quads at 450FSB +.

So, yes.
    
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post #4087 of 6473
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Originally Posted by Erper View Post
hi guys.. would u swap p5q pro for deluxe one...
thx
Yes I would but not if it would cost me much money..

200MHz of extra speed is not really worth much (3.8GHz vs 4GHz for example)..

CHEERS..
     
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post #4088 of 6473
well guy is lookin for 80e... but im willing to make some deal
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post #4089 of 6473
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erper View Post
i heard that e7200 r beasts of ocing.. offcourse, beside e8xxx series...

i have e2160 and from 1.8 i got to 3.2 stable...
from e6550 from 2.3 to 3.5
Erper, they are beasts for ocing... but most of them (except for the E8xxx series) have small L2 cache size (2MB and under) which is a drawback including my E5200...
     
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post #4090 of 6473
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Originally Posted by ocman View Post
Erper, they are beasts for ocing... but most of them (except for the E8xxx series) have small L2 cache size (2MB and under) which is a drawback including my E5200...
well, to be honest, for me speed counts.. hehe
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