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P.S. jetpak12, I've actually set VCore to 1.43750V in BIOS (1.416V in CPU-Z) lately due to some instability with my used to be stable 4GHz OC with 1.42500 VCore (1.4V in CPU-Z). 4GHz is stable again!

Hm, yeah I'm thinking in a couple days I'll work up the nerve to push up the vcore past 1.4V and see what I get. Do you think that my RAM could be limiting my overclock though? Still, my main suspicion is that my cpu just needs more juice.
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yeah I know hot air rises up. That's what I'm saying. It's weird. I have my 4870 directly under the HSfan of the Hyper 212+. I can put my hand in between the space and I can most def feel the heat from the GPU.....rising up through my HSfan and then blowing through the fins on the heat sink itself.

What I was saying, since hot air rises and cold air falls, it would seem logical to move my heat sink fan to the top of the heat sink blowing cooler air down. I have put my hand on top and underneath the heat sink. The coldest air is definitely on top because there is no GPU heat.

Yet when I reversed the fan and put it on top, I went 5c warmer. I know in theory the heat is supposed to be at the top of my case, but my case is open and very very little heat is in there. All the heat that can be felt by hand comes from the GPU. And it's above the GPU. (hot air rising from GPU) ANd my fan for the heat sink is directly above all that heat, pushing that heat through the fins and I'm 5c cooler that way. That is weird.

Its actually most logical to not compete with the rising hot air from your GPU and just keep pushing it upwards through the cooler. This will promote better air flow throughout your system and keep temps down. Rather than just trying to push some slightly cooler air down just to get trapped above the GPU I suppose. Did you notice if your GPU temps changed at all?
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jetpak12, the method works if followed closely... like in 2 steps.

Just make sure you have a good PSU that can supply the needed juice.

Ok thanks, I think my 1kW PSU will be enough.
Do you know if I would have access to CUDA and DirectCompute abilities of the card besides just PhysX for games? I'd be buying a new card for this and want to try to justify it for more than just the 6 or so games I have, as well as simply satisfying this itch I have just to see if it would work.
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Ok thanks, I think my 1kW PSU will be enough.
Enough for what?


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Enough for what?


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Trying out Hybrid PhysX with my 6970 and... whatever I happen to find for Hybrid PhysX

I'll be looking into a lower power card anyway, maybe GTS450 or 550Ti, to save on both initial cost and power.
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jetpak12, I didn't take note of any GPU cooling effect with the fan on top
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Ok thanks, I think my 1kW PSU will be enough.
Do you know if I would have access to CUDA and DirectCompute abilities of the card besides just PhysX for games? I'd be buying a new card for this and want to try to justify it for more than just the 6 or so games I have, as well as simply satisfying this itch I have just to see if it would work.
hey jetpak12,

radeons dont have CUDA, but dont be disheartened as CUDA kind of really isnt all that awesome. radeons however do support openCL, which is a better language. it allows you to use both cpu and gpu when you desire. if you wish some tutorials or more info on openCL feel free to ask (tho i warn you i am still a noob)

so i kind of missed the point

in short if you have a geforce and a radeon in your rig, then via openCL you can acces both as you wish, while with cuda you can only acces the geforce
Edited by liskawc - 9/13/11 at 11:52pm
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Hm, yeah I'm thinking in a couple days I'll work up the nerve to push up the vcore past 1.4V and see what I get. Do you think that my RAM could be limiting my overclock though? Still, my main suspicion is that my cpu just needs more juice.
jetpak12,

For OCZ RAM imo, anything that's Reaper and above is a sure bet for stability even if they are not in the ASUS RAM QVL.

I'm a little disappointed that my 4GB Platinum's stability wasn't so great when running at stock speed with P5Q PRO Turbo... and I paid a premium to get them back then...

I know it's more like PRO Turbo RAM picky problem more than the RAMs'...

Try stay under 1.45V VCore at all times.

My guess is that ~1.42V can get your CPU running stably @ 4.4GHz... but don't quote me on that.

P.S. I dropped by Pittsburgh for a day or two during my last trip to the states.
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hey jetpak12,

radeons dont have CUDA, but dont be disheartened as CUDA kind of really isnt all that awesome. radeons however do support openCL, which is a better language. it allows you to use both cpu and gpu when you desire. if you wish some tutorials or more info on openCL feel free to ask (tho i warn you i am still a noob)

so i kind of missed the point

in short if you have a geforce and a radeon in your rig, then via openCL you can acces both as you wish, while with cuda you can only acces the geforce
liskawc, ok thanks, you've actually answered a lot of questions for me.

I know Radeons don't have CUDA, so that's why I was interested in getting the Nvidia card. I do a little bit of programming for grad school, but not much. I'd heard that CUDA is a bit more developed and easy to use over OpenCL, and we spent a couple days in my Python class last semester going over some tutorials with it, but not OpenCL.

Basically I was hoping to get the best of both worlds by getting an nvidia card and a radeon card, and hoping that they would work well together in OpenCL, as well as be able to use CUDA on Nvidia card when I want/need it. (Do you see what I mean? I hope this is clear.) Furthermore, there are a couple programs that I use with my grad work that have built-in CUDA support already.

So, as long as I can access both cards together under OpenCL (radeon and geforce), and use CUDA, then I think the purchase would be worth it for me. Do you mind pm'ing me a link to a good introduction to OpenCL if you know of one? Thanks again, and sorry for clogging up the P5Q thread with this

EDIT: I've opened a new topic on the subject here. Stop by if any of you have any helpful information on the topic!
Edited by jetpak12 - 9/14/11 at 12:47pm
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jetpak12,

For OCZ RAM imo, anything that's Reaper and above is a sure bet for stability even if they are not in the ASUS RAM QVL.

I'm a little disappointed that my 4GB Platinum's stability wasn't so great when running at stock speed with P5Q PRO Turbo... and I paid a premium to get them back then...

I know it's more like PRO Turbo RAM picky problem more than the RAMs'...

Try stay under 1.45V VCore at all times.

My guess is that ~1.42V can get your CPU running stably @ 4.4GHz... but don't quote me on that.

P.S. I dropped by Pittsburgh for a day or two during my last trip to the states.
I think I've been having pretty good luck with my Fatal1tys so far. A good while back I tried to see if I could get them to run at 1066 because I thought for some reason I had 1066 sticks, but they wouldn't go, so I double-checked the part numbers and found I just had 800. But, they've taken to 900+ MHz pretty well. I was just trying to get an idea if RAM could be throwing off the overclock and if I should break the 1:1 ratio to get higher CPU clocks.

Later this week I'll give it 1.42 or so and see what I can get. Thanks for the help.

P.S. - I've only been in Pittsburgh for a year now, studying at the university in graduate school. What'd you think of the city?
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I know Radeons don't have CUDA, so that's why I was interested in getting the Nvidia card. I do a little bit of programming for grad school, but not much. I'd heard that CUDA is a bit more developed and easy to use over OpenCL, and we spent a couple days in my Python class last semester going over some tutorials with it, but not OpenCL.

Basically I was hoping to get the best of both worlds by getting an nvidia card and a radeon card, and hoping that they would work well together in OpenCL, as well as be able to use CUDA on Nvidia card when I want/need it. (Do you see what I mean? I hope this is clear.) Furthermore, there are a couple programs that I use with my grad work that have built-in CUDA support already.

So, as long as I can access both cards together under OpenCL (radeon and geforce), and use CUDA, then I think the purchase would be worth it for me. Do you mind pm'ing me a link to a good introduction to OpenCL if you know of one? Thanks again, and sorry for clogging up the P5Q thread with this
so i sent you a pm regarding the tutorials, also theres quite a confusion, as i couldnt upload the files needed, so i just pasted a link --- but in your thread

sorry for the confusion
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