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Poll Results: Do you prefer the new OCN?

 
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post #4471 of 6472
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Originally Posted by R.D.BID;14993771 
Hi guys. I'd like to pick your brains.

My OC seems to be stable (will pass 2 hr. OCCT) at 3.6ghz. Now, going to 3.7, I can't seem to be able to pass stability testing. The PC will run all day and play games and do whatever I need it to do at 3.7 without crashing, but it wont pass OCCT.
I've played with settings and voltages and all sorts of other tricks this board allows for but just can't get it to be "stable".

In your guys opinion, am I at my chips limit, or have I just not come across the golden BIOS settings?

1.46 VCore is pretty much the top I would set for mine... redface.gif

There's no absolute answer to the question... but I guess yes, you're at the chip's limit. thinking.gif

I was looking for golden settings to run my E5200 at higher stable clocks... tongue.gif
Edited by ocman - 9/19/11 at 5:44pm
     
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Hi all!

After a lot of reading and efforts, I finally realized that I cannot stabilize my system at 4.2GHz (500x8.5).

First of all, I bought my Q9550 (lapped) a year ago, and since then, it's been running at 3.8GHz (450x8.5) fully stable at 1.2V (NB at 1.34V)... Although I don't think I really need more CPU power, I want to stabilize it at 4.2GHz!

I've only managed to enter windows at 4GHz (IntelBurnTest stable) but for some reason, if I try to enter at 4.2GHz, the system will freeze at the windows boot animation screen.
No matter what I do...
I've set the VCore till 1.32V, the FSB Termination and the NB Voltage till 1.42V, while RAM is at 1:1 with 5-5-5-18...

Any ideas?
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Hi all!

After a lot of reading and efforts, I finally realized that I cannot stabilize my system at 4.2GHz (500x8.5).

First of all, I bought my Q9550 (lapped) a year ago, and since then, it's been running at 3.8GHz (450x8.5) fully stable at 1.2V (NB at 1.34V)... Although I don't think I really need more CPU power, I want to stabilize it at 4.2GHz!

I've only managed to enter windows at 4GHz (IntelBurnTest stable) but for some reason, if I try to enter at 4.2GHz, the system will freeze at the windows boot animation screen.
No matter what I do...
I've set the VCore till 1.32V, the FSB Termination and the NB Voltage till 1.42V, while RAM is at 1:1 with 5-5-5-18...

Any ideas?
Welcome to OCN and welcome aboard favas!!!

You probably don't need to set that much for NB voltage... lower it to maybe 1.36V or 1.38V.

Then try bump up the VCore notch by notch until you can get into Windows stably.

1.4V is the max safe for VCore... try not to go above that for 24/7.

Feel free to post here and reference the info in the 1st page.

Happy overclocking!!!
     
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Hi jetpak12, 2.3V might be a little too high for the RAMs...

Many members here say these mobos tends to over volt a little.

Also, thanks for the tips!
Yeah, I bet 2.3V is a bit too high too. When I was playing with it last Friday, the highest I went was 2.2V and it didn't seem to affect stability (or lack thereof in this case) at all. So, I think that means I need to stick with 2.1V and play with some other settings first.

Quote:
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Hey Jetpack, when playing with the AI Transaction booster make sure to also adjust the AI Clock Twister to Light to adjust for it.
Also for the E8500 & P45 chipset you want to adjust their clocks to sync so you can get higher clocks without errors. These are the bios settings for that...
CPU GTL Ref: 0.63x
CPU Clock Skew: 200ps

These are the settings I use for a 4016MHz OC with a 2008 FSB &
Ram at 1004MHz.
I have very few settings on Auto...

Here's the settings I use & also here's the explanation of what most of the Bios settings do...somewhat anyways.
I'm not afraid of giving the NB & FSB voltage a bit more than most...

More info...

Understanding GTL Reference Voltage

Adjusting A/GTL+ Levels for Increased FSB Signaling Margins and Overclocking
...
Awesome post Muff1n! It looks like I have a little more research to do before I start pushing more power out of my E8500. Looking through the info you provided, I'm already starting to feel more confident in my preparation for the next go. Thanks!
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Awesome post Muff1n! It looks like I have a little more research to do before I start pushing more power out of my E8500. Looking through the info you provided, I'm already starting to feel more confident in my preparation for the next go. Thanks!
No prob dude & welcome!
As I've always said..."There's no such thing as knowing too much when it comes to computers & overclocking..."
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Hi all!

After a lot of reading and efforts, I finally realized that I cannot stabilize my system at 4.2GHz (500x8.5).

First of all, I bought my Q9550 (lapped) a year ago, and since then, it's been running at 3.8GHz (450x8.5) fully stable at 1.2V (NB at 1.34V)... Although I don't think I really need more CPU power, I want to stabilize it at 4.2GHz!

I've only managed to enter windows at 4GHz (IntelBurnTest stable) but for some reason, if I try to enter at 4.2GHz, the system will freeze at the windows boot animation screen.
No matter what I do...
I've set the VCore till 1.32V, the FSB Termination and the NB Voltage till 1.42V, while RAM is at 1:1 with 5-5-5-18...

Any ideas?
Well I see that you have a P5Q deluxe motherboard..

It's a great motherboard but chances are it would not be able to hit stable 500MHz FSB with a C2Q without 1.5V for vNB..

My late P5Q Pro did 506MHz FSB "stable" in 3D tests like 3DMark11, Cinebench R10, Super Pi, WPrime 32M but with vMB= 1.54V (which is too high in my opinion for 24/7 operation)

Now you have a advanced set of NB GTL options in BIOS which could allow you to lower vNB..

Also Play with CPU GTL options to hit your CPU's sweetspot for High FSB OC.. (its a matter of trial & error)..

Also when trying to test your system's highest stable FSB ALWAYS lower CPU multiplier to 6x to avoid being held back by Vcore (500MHz FSB x 6 = 3GHz need less Vcore)..

When you get your FSB stable then up multiplier to 8.5x and add Vcore until it boots to Windows..

CHEERS..
     
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Welcome to OCN and welcome aboard Boorock!!!

Turbo and PRO Turbo are pretty much the same mobo, with the former, absence of the 2nd PCI-E 2.0 slot.

I'm not sure for the whether or not the BIOS could be used interchangeably... hence, I have posted the question earlier today with regards to your situation to Ket on XS forum... shall wait for his response or anyone who knows before flashing the BIOS.

Check out the 1st page of this club for related resource and feel free to post here.

Btw, you can enter your specs into your system info to make it show in each of your post.

Well, thanks for your immediate interest & effort my interchangeably question of Pro Turbo BIOS / Turbo

Also I do have another question about the Slic-Bios Mods ?

Found it in a german forum... But they want some bucks for it !

Made them for Win7 activation, installed Slic 2.1 tables in the BIOS
Stating that you don't have to use a win loader to hack the win 7 activation

http://www.boerse.bz/boerse/freischa...ml#post3828141

The post is dated: 02.01.11

Any ideas guys..?
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Well, thanks for your immediate interest & effort my interchangeably question of Pro Turbo BIOS / Turbo

Also I do have another question about the Slic-Bios Mods ?

Found it in a german forum... But they want some bucks for it !

Made them for Win7 activation, installed Slic 2.1 tables in the BIOS
Stating that you don't have to use a win loader to hack the win 7 activation

http://www.boerse.bz/boerse/freischa...ml#post3828141

The post is dated: 02.01.11

Any ideas guys..?
Hi Boorock, there should be free ones out there for P5Q Turbo.

Alternatively, it's actually very easy to DIY for Windows.

PM me if you want more info...
     
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KingT and ocman thanks a lot for your help guys!

I tried a few more times to boot into windows by changing the NB and CPU voltage. I had to raise the first to 1.48 in order to enter windows.
So I guess if I want to stabilize it at 4.2GHz I'll have to raise it more (which will probably destroy the motherboard)...
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KingT and ocman thanks a lot for your help guys!

I tried a few more times to boot into windows by changing the NB and CPU voltage. I had to raise the first to 1.48 in order to enter windows.
So I guess if I want to stabilize it at 4.2GHz I'll have to raise it more (which will probably destroy the motherboard)...
Thanks! You're welcome! Just keep in mind that 1.4 VCore is the max safe.

From KingT's case with his P5Q PRO, NB voltage should never set higher than 1.5V... while 1.4V is rather high to me already... mine is still set to 1.1V.

Good luck!
     
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