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Originally Posted by ocman;15551764 
Punjab, it's been a very long time since your 1st post in this club... eek.giftongue.gif

How have you been? confused.gif

Btw, you accidentally had me fooled that you were a PRO Turbo owner all this time... ninja.gif

Get IvyBridge or the one after Ivy if you can wait. wink.gif

I personally like to see full USB3.0 and SATA6.0 ports and even having Thunderbolt interface on a mobo given that they are all backward compatible.

cheers.gif

Btw, How's the SLi hack working for you all this time?

My plan is Ivy Bridge but we'll see if all the funds are acquired by then. The SLI hack was working well but I upgraded some components in my HTPC so I only game on that machine and only work on this one. So these days I'm just using twin cards at x8, non-sli, to run separate monitors. It keeps my frame rates pretty high in 3DStudio with high polygon counts.
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Hi guys! I've been pretty busy lately so I haven't made it to OCN as much in the past week or so. Just thought I'd stop into the club to say hello and give a little update.

So almost two weeks ago now I ran into those horrendous memory errors. I figured that one of my sticks went bad, but it turns out this wasn't the case. I tested each module individually and in pairs, across all four slots and every configuration produced the same results:

I could clock them up to 475 without any errors, but as soon as I bumped them up 500+MHz, I would get memory errors in Memtest at exactly 50%: the random number test. A little strange. This happened with both individual sticks and with two together. I didn't try anything between 475 and 500.

So, I set them back to 466 like before and everything was fine and dandy for a day of light computer use (no gaming). Then the next day, I was trying out the Plants vs. Zombies demo (for the Steam Halloween sale) and I suddenly got the "cascade" of BSODs again.

I thought for a good while and came to the conclusion that my RAM must be overheating. I remember when I was pulling out the RAM during the Memtest testing that they felt quite warm. I don't think they were too warm on their own, just that when all four sticks are lined up against each other in the slots it likely builds up without anywhere for the warm air to go.

So, I dropped them down to a "measly" 400MHz and set them at 1.8V vRAM. Have been going strong since. I could probably clock them a little higher and still keep 1.8V, and I'll give it a shot sometime, but I'm much too busy right now, so it'll have to wait.

In conclusion, do you think it would be worth it to grab a RAM cooler for this situation? I always wondered why Corsair was the only RAM company that I saw selling cooling fans for their RAM (and for the Dominators, no less ). But it turns out, after some quick shopping on the 'egg, other companies make them too. The one that seems most promising to me right now is the Arctic Cooling "Turbo Module" RAM cooler, but I can't find any reviews on it. What do you guys think?

Sorry for the long post! tl;dr: RAM is working now, albeit at lower speed/volts.


@punjab I'm holding for Ivy as well, but I'm not sure if I can make it. I have a second 6970 on order, and crossfiring 6970s is going to make my E8500 cry for mommy. And now that ASUS has finally gotten around to releasing their set of "Gen 3" motherboards, grabbing Sandy doesn't sound like such a bad idea. But you guys don't have to worry, I'm sticking with 775 for a while longer at least, because I don't have the money for a major upgrade, yet...
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@ Jetpak12

My old DDR2 RAM,Kingston Hyper X 2x2GB 1066MHz at 920MHz, 1.9V were so hot when system was @ full LOAD that I could burn my fingers just by touching them..

But they were ROCK SOLID all up to 1020MHz CL5, (due incompatibility with my P5Q Pro I have never been able to run then @ 1066MHz or higher)..

I don't think that your stability issue has something to do with heat..

Maybe one of your sticks has degraded so it's able to run error free only at lower speed..

Also try running 333 STRAP (or AUTO) as it could help..


Also running 8GB of RAM (4x 2GB) and overclocking is a known issue on P5Q Pro/ Pro TURBO motherboards.

OMG, a E8500 + 2x 6970 is such a waste of a GPU power..


CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 11/4/11 at 10:37am
     
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@ Jetpak12

My old DDR2 RAM,Kingston Hyper X 2x2GB 1066MHz at 920MHz, 1.9V were so hot when system was @ full LOAD that I could burn my fingers just by touching them..

But they were ROCK SOLID all up to 1020MHz CL5, (due incompatibility with my P5Q Pro I have never been able to run then @ 1066MHz or higher)..

I don't think that your stability issue has something to do with heat..

Maybe one of your sticks has degraded so it's able to run error free only at lower speed..

Also try running 333 STRAP (or AUTO) as it could help..


Also running 8GB of RAM (4x 2GB) and overclocking is a known issue on P5Q Pro/ Pro TURBO motherboards.

OMG, a E8500 + 2x 6970 is such a waste of a GPU power..


CHEERS..
Ok, thanks for the info. I always keep the FSB Strap on AUTO for 1:1. I take it the 333 setting allows for 1:1 FSB ratio?

It is certainly possible that one of the sticks has degraded, but all four sticks performed exactly the same in Memtest, with the strange behavior at 500MHz with it failing right at the random number test. This confuses me the most. Adjusting voltage like crazy, and even with a single stick in different slots, it would always begin failing right at that point.

And yes, even a single 6970 is being bottlenecked by my E8500. I got it pretty quickly after it launched, upgrading from 2x 4850s. I read too much about the 6000 series and wanted to go for the big boy. And then I found the HIS-Amazon deal thread here on OCN. Amazon was selling HIS 6970s for $230 for about a day until they went out of stock. You might have seen the thread, because its stupidly long with people complaining about the cards being on such a long back order currently and trying to get their ordered price-matched to other 6970s. I'm happy just to sit and wait until it comes, and if it doesn't, then not too much of a loss for me.

But yes, my 6970 is dying for some more CPU power. Frankly, I'm not too impressed with the chipsets that Intel has come out with. Like ocman mentioned earlier, I want full USB3/PCIe3 and more SATA6 support.
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Hi jetpak12, I saw that amazon deal too... not much use for me now.

On with RAMs, so my recent experience is that if I set 2.2V for vDRAM while OCZ sticks in use... errors occur in mem test...

2.1V is the spec. for OCZ at stock 1066.

While Kingston's can run at 2.2V without errors by themselves.

Overvolt or overheat could be the cause(s) for errors.

I might have to run memtest one more time to make sure the RAMs are error free.
     
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Would it be worthwhile getting a SSD for a system with the P5Q Pro turbo board? Not sure if this has been covered or not, but I am thinking of hooking up one to my other system as well which is still running a Q9550 on the above mentioned board with 4 gigs of DDR2 667 RAM.

The other alternative is to get it and quietly start upgrading it to a 2500k.... so as the wife does not lock me out some night... very very quiet upgrade... hunting wabbits and protecting balls...
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Hi jetpak12, I saw that amazon deal too... not much use for me now.

On with RAMs, so my recent experience is that if I set 2.2V for vDRAM while OCZ sticks in use... errors occur in mem test...

2.1V is the spec. for OCZ at stock 1066.

While Kingston's can run at 2.2V without errors by themselves.

Overvolt or overheat could be the cause(s) for errors.

I might have to run memtest one more time to make sure the RAMs are error free.
Well, its interesting because they are specified to run at 2.1V for 533MHz, but 1.8V for 400MHz, but I didn't notice this until the other day when I dropped them down to 400 @ 1.8V. Maybe I was just running them for too long at the higher voltage when that much wasn't needed? I'll try overclocking them a little at 1.8V and see what I get.

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Would it be worthwhile getting a SSD for a system with the P5Q Pro turbo board? Not sure if this has been covered or not, but I am thinking of hooking up one to my other system as well which is still running a Q9550 on the above mentioned board with 4 gigs of DDR2 667 RAM.

The other alternative is to get it and quietly start upgrading it to a 2500k.... so as the wife does not lock me out some night... very very quiet upgrade... hunting wabbits and protecting balls...
I think an SSD will always show a benefit. I'm very happy with my SSD on my Pro, and its only a "Gen 1" drive. Just remember that if you get one of the newer SSDs, their sustained read rates can surpass the speeds of the SATA II port. You can see this in the specification page of any newer SSD, they usually list two sets of speeds depending on whether you have it plugged into a SATA II or SATA III port.

But full upgrades are always nice too... especially quiet ones.
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Would it be worthwhile getting a SSD for a system with the P5Q Pro turbo board? Not sure if this has been covered or not, but I am thinking of hooking up one to my other system as well which is still running a Q9550 on the above mentioned board with 4 gigs of DDR2 667 RAM.

The other alternative is to get it and quietly start upgrading it to a 2500k.... so as the wife does not lock me out some night... very very quiet upgrade... hunting wabbits and protecting balls...
@oldschool83 Upgrading in Stealth mode... Good idea!!!

I'm waiting for this upcoming holiday season sale for price drops for these newer SSDs and install them to get a boost for these older computers I have such as the hp sff and blue kryptonite tower.

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I think an SSD will always show a benefit. I'm very happy with my SSD on my Pro, and its only a "Gen 1" drive. Just remember that if you get one of the newer SSDs, their sustained read rates can surpass the speeds of the SATA II port. You can see this in the specification page of any newer SSD, they usually list two sets of speeds depending on whether you have it plugged into a SATA II or SATA III port.

But full upgrades are always nice too... especially quiet ones.
@jetpak12 I can't agree more!!!
     
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I'm baaack!

I got a little occupied on other things, so I didn't get to further OC-ing my trustworthy Q9550. It's running stable(-ish) @ 3.6GHz, which was fine for a while...
But now BF3 has come out and... well... back to the drawing board on OC-ing!

I currently have 2x4870 1GB in CrossFire, but I ordered a single 6950 2GB to replace those. I believe my Q9550 shouldn't be too much of a bottleneck for it, if I can get it to 4GHz.
(am I right?)

Anyway, this is where I stranded last time;

I couldn't get my FSB any higher than 420MHz, because my RAM starts failing if I go any higher. Multiplier is 8.5x. Comes down to ~3.6Ghz.
SO... I think I will just go any buy myself some new RAM as well.

Now the big question is; which RAM?
My current HyperX memory is not working too well with the P5Q (known incompatibility), so if anyone here knows which RAM is best for getting my Q9550 @ 4GHz then let me know!
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OCX Vertex2 120GB SSD, 2xSamsung1TB Raid0 and more yes Scythe Ninja 3 Windows 7 64-bits 
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Try to find some Patriot Viper DDR2 or Crucial Ballistix. I believe they both use D9 chips (I know the Crucials do) and run 4-4-4-12 timings. I've currently got mine clocked to 470 FSB for a 1:1 ratio. My Q9550 maintains stability at 3.9G on 1.28v.
I'd like to try maxing this board's RAM capacity out with 16g but G Skill seems to be the only company producing DDR2 in 16g kits and I really don't want to drop $300 on an older technology.
Show me a sign ebay gods!
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Rosewill Conqueror 
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