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Poll Results: Do you prefer the new OCN?

 
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Originally Posted by ZonderZout View Post
I'm baaack!

I got a little occupied on other things, so I didn't get to further OC-ing my trustworthy Q9550. It's running stable(-ish) @ 3.6GHz, which was fine for a while...
But now BF3 has come out and... well... back to the drawing board on OC-ing!

I currently have 2x4870 1GB in CrossFire, but I ordered a single 6950 2GB to replace those. I believe my Q9550 shouldn't be too much of a bottleneck for it, if I can get it to 4GHz.
(am I right?)

Anyway, this is where I stranded last time;

I couldn't get my FSB any higher than 420MHz, because my RAM starts failing if I go any higher. Multiplier is 8.5x. Comes down to ~3.6Ghz.
SO... I think I will just go any buy myself some new RAM as well.

Now the big question is; which RAM?
My current HyperX memory is not working too well with the P5Q (known incompatibility), so if anyone here knows which RAM is best for getting my Q9550 @ 4GHz then let me know!
Hi ZonderZout, it's been a while!

Since your system is similar to the one KingT had before... his oc template(s) that I linked in the 1st page 2nd post should be good reference for you to test out.

As for RAMs, any listed models found in the PRO's QVL should be fine... but I don't know which one is the best.

If OCZ Blade series are still available, I would definitely tell you to get those, but I couldn't even get them for myself... so little being made for each gen...

Have fun!
Edited by ocman - 11/7/11 at 2:47pm
     
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I'm baaack!

I got a little occupied on other things, so I didn't get to further OC-ing my trustworthy Q9550. It's running stable(-ish) @ 3.6GHz, which was fine for a while...
But now BF3 has come out and... well... back to the drawing board on OC-ing!

I currently have 2x4870 1GB in CrossFire, but I ordered a single 6950 2GB to replace those. I believe my Q9550 shouldn't be too much of a bottleneck for it, if I can get it to 4GHz.
(am I right?)

Anyway, this is where I stranded last time;

I couldn't get my FSB any higher than 420MHz, because my RAM starts failing if I go any higher. Multiplier is 8.5x. Comes down to ~3.6Ghz.
SO... I think I will just go any buy myself some new RAM as well.

Now the big question is; which RAM?
My current HyperX memory is not working too well with the P5Q (known incompatibility), so if anyone here knows which RAM is best for getting my Q9550 @ 4GHz then let me know!
Well a single HD6950 would not be bottlenecked by a Q9550 @ 3.6GHz..

I have tested that a Q9550 @ 3.4GHz does not significantly bottleneck a overclocked GTX480 @ 831/1025MHz (which is much faster than stock HD6950)..

Here is my testing on Q9550 @ 2.83GHz, 3.4GHz and 3.9GHz w/ OC'd GTX480:


Q9550 @ 2.83GHz, DDR3 @ 1066MHz, 7-7-7-20 :

Avg = 74FPS




Q9550 @ 3.4GHz, DDR3 @ 1600MHz, 9-9-9-27 :

Avg = 77FPS







Q9550 @ 3.9GHz, DDR3 @ 1224MHz, 7-7-7-20 :

Avg = 78.4FPS






As for RAM you can get a Kingston HyperX but don't count that it would run @ 1066MHz or higher (I had HyperX 1066MHz 2x2GB and they worked up to 1020MHz on a P5Q Pro, so your problem is something else)..

Just make sure that you get RAM that is capable of at least 920MHz.. (460MHz FSB, 1:1)

P.S.: A P5Q Pro is limited to up to 460MHz P95 Large FFT stable with a C2Quad processor due lack of advanced CPU GTL voltage options in BIOS..

So 3.9GHz would be a max on Q9550..

For a 3.8 - 3.9GHz OC template w/ stability testing methodology CLICK HERE


CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 11/7/11 at 4:58am
     
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Hi guys, sorry I've been such a stranger

Nice benchmarks, KingT! That sets my mind at ease.
Couldn't find OCZ, Crucial Ballistic nor Patriot's. Mainly Kingston HyperX and GeIL Black Dragon (are those cool? Black Dragon sounds cool).

But... I have something to confess...

I am such a frickin' dumbass... as I just noticed that my HyperX RAM is PC2-6400... 800Mhz...
I will go sit in a corner and be very ashamed now, while I'll check for some real 1066 RAM...

=mumble=dumbass=mumble=oooh, wont go past 420FSB...=mumble=idiot=mumble=
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Add more voltage on those HyperX 800MHz sticks,try up to 2.3V with 5-5-5-18..

They should be able to hit at least 900MHz..

I have two Apacer Gold 1GB 800MHz sticks that do 1066Mhz easily w/ 2.2V..


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Seriously? Hmm, okay, I will fiddle with these some more then...
But I still feel like a dumbass
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Yup, and don't just jump to 2.3V..

Start adding RAM voltage in 0.02V steps until your stability improves..

Also check out my 3.8 - 3.9GHz OC template..


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Your OC template is really helpful! Used that in the past as well.
But I still run into stability problems when setting the fsb to 450.

I took out 2 ram modules... And guess what? It's a KHX8500D2K2/2G kit... So dual channel 1066mhz after all. Kinda weird that CPUz reads it as 6400?

Perhaps the problem is that I use 4 dims of 1G, in stead of 2x2G.

But even with 2x1G and setting 450 fsb, 2.2v on dram (default for these) and running ddr2 on 901mhz, I get errors when running memtest 4.0.
While running the memory on 900mhz means I basically under clock it, right?

Slowly upping the voltage on dram till I get it stable or to 2.3v but after that I am out of ideas
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That KHX8500D2K2/2G are 1066MHz sticks and they are on QV List for P5Q Pro/Pro TURBO motherboards..

But they are probrammed to run @ 800MHz due JEDEC standard,so they must be manually set @ 1066MHz..

Also set NB voltage to 1.36V..

Maybe one of your RAM sticks is defective or one of your memory slots on the motherboard?

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Well a single HD6950 would not be bottlenecked by a Q9550 @ 3.6GHz..

I have tested that a Q9550 @ 3.4GHz does not significantly bottleneck a overclocked GTX480 @ 831/1025MHz (which is much faster than stock HD6950)..
I'm curious as to how you do your testing.

I found that my Q6600 @ 2.7-2.8 was fast enough for my ATI 5870. (at stock clocks)
I realized this by using 3dmark Vantage 1080p settings, (i think it was Vantage) As my CPU OC increased so did the score for my GPU until I reached 2.8ghz CPU. After that, my GPU score did not increase with further CPU overclocking.

Is my testing methodology incorrect?
Reason I ask is that I always hear insanely high overclocks being needed to limit bottlenecking all over this forum. I'm just wondering if all that is just speculation, or is someone actually backing up what they're saying with some testing and some data.

What are your thoughts?
 
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I'm curious as to how you do your testing.

I found that my Q6600 @ 2.7-2.8 was fast enough for my ATI 5870. (at stock clocks)
I realized this by using 3dmark Vantage 1080p settings, (i think it was Vantage) As my CPU OC increased so did the score for my GPU until I reached 2.8ghz CPU. After that, my GPU score did not increase with further CPU overclocking.

Is my testing methodology incorrect?
Reason I ask is that I always hear insanely high overclocks being needed to limit bottlenecking all over this forum. I'm just wondering if all that is just speculation, or is someone actually backing up what they're saying with some testing and some data.

What are your thoughts?
Well I would run 3DMark 11 to really push that GPU..

But I always put my trust on some actual game benchmark as that's as real life situation as it gets..

Because in games a CPU also does a lot of physics calculations (for example a big explosions with a large amount of particles/smoke)..

That really hurts CPU performance and along with that GPU usage/performance drops..


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