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Poll Results: Do you prefer the new OCN?

 
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    Yes!
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post #4921 of 6461
Hi,

Yes, all your tips followed excpt for RAM tips. The RAM is per its exact spec, not part of the equation here.

My cooler is a Zalman Arctic Freezer Pro 7. At 1.3125 very stable.

Ran P95 Blend for 10 hours and IBT and P95 Large FFT for four hours and Memtest. No issues.

So 1.3125 seems to be it. I could try to go lower again, but not sure it's gonna be stable.

Thoughts?

Cheers, DW
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@ DW2012

 

If you are comfortable with 1.3125V that's alright.

 

Inserting: It's best for stability if you can maintain a 1:1 ratio when overclocking!

 

Another thing as indicated by KingT within his oc templates is the testing methodology for highest possible CPU freq...

 

What he suggests is to have the CPU multiplier drop to the lowest with FSB and VCore at stock (default).

 

Then slowly bump up the FSB to the max stable... and then notch by notch increase the CPU multiplier and VCore to the max stable (until VCore reaches 1.4V load) to find the max speed your CPU would do on your mobo.

 

In short, find your max FSB first... and slowly increase CPU multiplier to hit desired speed and bump up the VCore in between.

 

As indicated in the 1st page, there are 3 factors that drive overclocking. Remember to keep all three settings below 1.4V at all time.

 

Either way... you are responsible for any damages made to your hardware... hope they are still under warranty to get RMA if anything bad happens... touch wood. rolleyes.gif

 

Guess you aren't digging into Tip #2 in the 1st page of the club, are you...? frown.gif

 

Oh well... I'm extending the help as always... typer.gif

 

P.S.: KingT or anyone else, correct me if I made a mistake paraphrasing the testing methodology thanks! wink.gif


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had my P5Q sitting disassembled in the corner until now, no case to put it in and had leftover parts to rebuild it out of (hence the IDE drive)

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Another thing as indicated by KingT within his oc templates is the testing methodology for highest possible CPU freq...

What he suggests is to have the CPU multiplier drop to the lowest with FSB and VCore at stock (default).

Then slowly bump up the FSB to the max stable... and then notch by notch increase the CPU multiplier and VCore to the max stable (until VCore reaches 1.4V load) to find the max speed your CPU would do on your mobo.

In short, find your max FSB first... and slowly increase CPU multiplier to hit desired speed and bump up the VCore in between.

I don't know how well that methodology works for C2Q (what KingT has, isn't it?) but not so well for C2D. Higher FSB demands higher vCore for stability, so a compromise has to be made. The E7400 has a high max multiplier so personally I prefer sacrificing a bit of FSB to max out the CPU. At 480+ FSB, I struggle to keep 4.4GHz stable but at 440 FSB it's been running stable at 1.5vCore for as long as I can remember. The results could vary on a P5Q Pro, but that's just my experience.
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Hi, OC Man,

Thanks for the tips. I've reached my desired O/C of 3.4 GHZ. With a 8.5 Multiplier * 400 FSB. My RAM is 1:1.

All my other voltages are on Auto. My core temp under PR95 is 56 C after 10 hours.

My concern now is getting the lowest possible VCore for my chip. The default VCore at 2.8 GHZ for the E7400 was on Auto, so I have no idea knowing what the default was.

If you have any other advice, let me know.

Thanks.
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had my P5Q sitting disassembled in the corner until now, no case to put it in and had leftover parts to rebuild it out of (hence the IDE drive)

p1020074u.jpg

I don't know how well that methodology works for C2Q (what KingT has, isn't it?) but not so well for C2D. Higher FSB demands higher vCore for stability, so a compromise has to be made. The E7400 has a high max multiplier so personally I prefer sacrificing a bit of FSB to max out the CPU. At 480+ FSB, I struggle to keep 4.4GHz stable but at 440 FSB it's been running stable at 1.5vCore for as long as I can remember. The results could vary on a P5Q Pro, but that's just my experience.


Nice display of disassembled parts or parts without a chassis or simply an open test bench. thumb.gif
 

With VCore 1.5V, you sure were pushing it Petrol. biggrin.gif

 

My max FSB was in the 360s... but I'm settling for 334 x 12 right now for my E5200 R0 doing 4GHz with 1.416 VCore.
 

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Hi, OC Man,

Thanks for the tips. I've reached my desired O/C of 3.4 GHZ. With a 8.5 Multiplier * 400 FSB. My RAM is 1:1.

All my other voltages are on Auto. My core temp under PR95 is 56 C after 10 hours.

My concern now is getting the lowest possible VCore for my chip. The default VCore at 2.8 GHZ for the E7400 was on Auto, so I have no idea knowing what the default was.

If you have any other advice, let me know.

Thanks.
 


Thanks for the appreciation! You will get the hang of "rep"ping soon. It's a nice way to say thanks and to get help! teaching.gif

 

Now, the other thing to do is to set the rest of the voltages with a fixed required value instead of leaving them on AUTO in the BIOS... in case AUTO over-volt them. thumbsupsmiley.png

 

Use CPU-Z to check voltage and related info about your CPU, mobo, RAMs, and graphics. Also, use CPU-Z to validate oc records and post them in the club and in your signature. thumb.gif

 

Use AIDA64 or formerly known as Everest to get extensive info about the hardware and software in your system.

Use CoreTemp or CPUID HW Monitor to get temps... as you might already know.cheers.gif

 


Edited by ocman - 1/15/12 at 9:00am
     
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I don't know how well that methodology works for C2Q (what KingT has, isn't it?) but not so well for C2D. Higher FSB demands higher vCore for stability, so a compromise has to be made. The E7400 has a high max multiplier so personally I prefer sacrificing a bit of FSB to max out the CPU. At 480+ FSB, I struggle to keep 4.4GHz stable but at 440 FSB it's been running stable at 1.5vCore for as long as I can remember. The results could vary on a P5Q Pro, but that's just my experience.

I think it works best for most of the later C2Q and Duos, ones that have low multi's. My 8500 only maxes out to 9.5x, so I need to work at increases FSB to get a higher overclock. smile.gif

Also, nice bit of parts there. biggrin.gif I've been considering doing a full WC loop for my next build, is it worth it? And how are you liking Team AMD? Did you feel a good boast going from your C2D?
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Hi Jetpak, I see you are using 466 FSB which I found to be the best setting between 440-500. WC is definitely worthwhile if your goal is extreme performance, but it can be fairly costly to get started (I'd budget at least $300). The good thing though is that with a custom loop you can still reuse most components in newer builds, especially if you don't buy those ridiculously expensive full-card blocks that can only fit on one specific type of gfx card. Not very practical to spend so much money on that when for the price you can upgrade to a newer graphics card even sooner!

I find hybrid cooling to be the best solution, especially caseless since the hot air can easily dissipate away from the components. Under the stock air cooling, which is VERY loud on the GTX 460, temps will go up into the 80s under load whereas with water-cooling temps have only exceeded 35 degrees once while the voltage was maxed out and testing for artifacts. OCing the GFX has allowed me to play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat, a VERY graphics-intensive game at max settings with no lag. You can't tell from screenshots but some of the effects in that game are absolutely awe-inspiring. I could not go back to air-cooling on graphics, but I'm stuck with air now for the AMD rig which is very good at calculation, compression/decompression and generally tasks that can use 6 cores, but just slightly better than the C2D at gaming. It's hard to tell about gaming performance really because I'm using a 9800 GT GFX card on that which pales in comparison to the power of the GTX 460. I got an AM3+ mobo specifically to take advantage of the new standards so the rig is far from being as complete or fast as it can become but the Phenom II line has been discontinued so this seemed like the best time to still get one for a good price
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Hi Jetpak, I see you are using 466 FSB which I found to be the best setting between 440-500. WC is definitely worthwhile if your goal is extreme performance, but it can be fairly costly to get started (I'd budget at least $300). The good thing though is that with a custom loop you can still reuse most components in newer builds, especially if you don't buy those ridiculously expensive full-card blocks that can only fit on one specific type of gfx card. Not very practical to spend so much money on that when for the price you can upgrade to a newer graphics card even sooner!
I find hybrid cooling to be the best solution, especially caseless since the hot air can easily dissipate away from the components. Under the stock air cooling, which is VERY loud on the GTX 460, temps will go up into the 80s under load whereas with water-cooling temps have only exceeded 35 degrees once while the voltage was maxed out and testing for artifacts. OCing the GFX has allowed me to play S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Call of Pripyat, a VERY graphics-intensive game at max settings with no lag. You can't tell from screenshots but some of the effects in that game are absolutely awe-inspiring. I could not go back to air-cooling on graphics, but I'm stuck with air now for the AMD rig which is very good at calculation, compression/decompression and generally tasks that can use 6 cores, but just slightly better than the C2D at gaming. It's hard to tell about gaming performance really because I'm using a 9800 GT GFX card on that which pales in comparison to the power of the GTX 460. I got an AM3+ mobo specifically to take advantage of the new standards so the rig is far from being as complete or fast as it can become but the Phenom II line has been discontinued so this seemed like the best time to still get one for a good price

Thanks for all the great info! thumb.gif I'm actually running at 450 FSB right now, because 466 wasn't completely stable for my ram.

Basically, I love the performance that my H70 has provided me, and I hate the "hair-dryer" sound from my 6970, just to keep temperatures below 80C, so those are my two motivations for getting a full WC loop. I'm still debating it though, since I don't have a whole lot of free time to mess around with it.

I would be getting WC for my planned Ivy Bridge build this April, and I was considering getting full cover waterblocks on either two 6970s, or a 6990+6970. Do you know if fullcover blocks provide better cooling? That was my impression, although your point about price makes me think twice now. And I would like to keep it all contained within my case, since I have a pretty massive one (full ATX tower).
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The only two parts of a GFX card that really need active cooling are the GPU and VRMs. As long as the VRMs have a heatsink and air movement to exchange the air between the fins/pins it will not be a problem. Just last night I had the card up at max voltage and the VRMs handled it. A full block effectively doubles the price of a GFX card and delays the next upgrade because the PCB designs change from generation to generation and make it impossible to use the full block again. The GPU heatspreader's shape doesn't change much so a universal block can always be retrofitted to a new design, and heatsinks can also be reused.

edit: so to answer your question; no they don't provide better cooling, they just do away with the need for a heatsink and little fan to keep air moving over the VRMs. People mostly buy them for cosmetic purposes.
Edited by Petrol - 1/15/12 at 1:43pm
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Hi everyone,

I have downloaded the custom bios on the first page. When I restart the cpu and put it on EZ flash to flash my bios, the downloaded file is invalid according to EZ flash, thus i tried again with the same result. can anyone help me to get this done, my board is ASUS P5Q pro turbo

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