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Originally Posted by DJ_GLiTCH View Post

I am not sure what you are trying to achieve by flashing a modified rom, but those look like the ones I got a hold of about a month ago and tried out myself if that helps (didn't really change much from my experience).

I decided to risk trying them out as I wasn't getting a reply, I didn't want to damage my board in anyway. But yes you're right the ROM for my P5Q deluxe didn't seem to add any settings in bios. Judging by King T's settings he had extra settings in his from whichever bios he used, hence why I kindly asked him before if he could verify or upload his ROM, if it was for the P5Q deluxe.

RGWoods ROM didnt flash to my board. EZ Flash reported that it was the incorrect size, so I had to make do with Ket's.
post #5502 of 6494
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Originally Posted by majnu View Post

But yes you're right the ROM for my P5Q deluxe didn't seem to add any settings in bios. Judging by King T's settings he had extra settings in his from whichever bios he used, hence why I kindly asked him before if he could verify or upload his ROM, if it was for the P5Q deluxe.

What sort of extra options were you trying to see? I know it's obvious, but have you tried setting everything to manual in an attempt to locate the settings you're after? Ai Overclock and one of the memory settings (Ai Transaction Booster?) should be set to manual in order for the majority/all of the settings to appear.

From my understanding all that was added into the modified bios that you were able to flash was stuff to do with memory (ram compatibility and performance data taken from the better boards) and potentially higher stability when overclocking. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, that's just what I made of it as it didn't really change anything for me so it can't be anything too drastic.
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post #5503 of 6494
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I decided to risk trying them out as I wasn't getting a reply, I didn't want to damage my board in anyway. But yes you're right the ROM for my P5Q deluxe didn't seem to add any settings in bios. Judging by King T's settings he had extra settings in his from whichever bios he used, hence why I kindly asked him before if he could verify or upload his ROM, if it was for the P5Q deluxe.
RGWoods ROM didnt flash to my board. EZ Flash reported that it was the incorrect size, so I had to make do with Ket's.

There are no extra features in BIOS available with modded version..

Only enhanced memory compatibility for P5Q Pro and other mid - lower end P5Q series motherboards..

From my experience my stability and OC results were IDENTICAL on both stock and modded BIOS files..

I had P5Q Pro and P5QC not Deluxe model,and i have been using stock BIOS for most of the time..

Sadly I do not own a LGA 775 system anymore so I cannot help you with BIOS ROM..

If you have downloaded Ket's modded BIOS collection then use one for your motherboard..

P.S.: P5Q Deluxe,Premium and P5Q-E have 2MB size file for BIOS ROM..

Other models like P5Q Pro,P5Q Pro TURBO etc have 1MB BIOS file size..

You cannot flash 1MB size file or ROM larger than 2MB on to your motherboard..


CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 3/27/12 at 4:08am
     
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I've ran the settings and have passed PRIME 95 for about 2 hours and get 3.83Ghz.

However when I go to play a game, after 2 mins the card just freezes, I get a buzzing sound and the computer crashes.

I will upload the settings in a short while as I need to fill in Rig Builder first.
post #5505 of 6494
Ok guys I think my overclock is finished. This is a 24/7 Stable Overclock and its all I could push out of her for that particular goal. I will post the BIOS settings here for anyone else as a reference and hopefully some help.

Corsair DDR800 2x2GB CL5
Q9450 2.66GHz / 1333FSB

Overclocked:

DDR1141 6-6-6-15
Q9450 3.82GHz / 1900FSB


Bios settings:
CPU Ratio Setting: Auto
FSB Frequency: 475 (Can achieve 485 but I'm good with this OC)
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 200ps (Can probably run stable all skews on Auto or normal, but it seemed having exactly 200ps difference between CPU and NB gave me the best results. Like 300/100, 500/300, 700/500)
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

CAS# Latency: 6 (tCL)
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 6 (tRCD)
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 6 (tRP)
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 (tRAS)
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 1 (tRRD)
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50 (tRFC)
Write Recovery Time: 2 (tWR)
Read to Precharge Time: 1 (tRTP)

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 7 (tRTW)
Write to Read Delay (S): 3 (tWTR_S)
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 4 (tWTR_D)
READ to READ Delay (S): 5 (tRTR_S) (Had to bump this from 4 to 5 to keep stability on higher DRAM clockspeed, rest of the timings are all tightened.)
READ to READ Delay (D): 6 (tRTR_D)
WRITE to WRITE Delay(S): 4 (tWTW_S)
WRITE to WRITE Delay(D): 4 (tWTW_D)

WRITE to PRE Delay: 11 (tWTPD)
READ to PRE Delay: 1 (tRTPD)
PRE to PRE Delay: 1 (tPTPD)
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 5 (tAPTAD)
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 5 (tAPTRD)

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled (No real stability effect)
DRAM Read Training: Enabled (No real stability effect)
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled (To achieve higher Clock speeds above DDR1000 I had to enable this to keep things stable)
AI Clock Twister: Moderate (Strong would introduce some errors)
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level (tRD): 09 (Lowest as it will go)
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5: Enabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled (With this I both have lower Idle/Load temps and I could bring my Voltage down to 1.23v)
CPU Differential Amplitude: 800mV (I'm not actually sure if this had any effect on my overclocking, but it seems to work fine smile.gif
PCIE Frequency: 100 (Just left it at 100, 100 or 101 it all doesn't matter for stability.

CPU Voltage: 1.23125v (At 1.21v IntelBurnTest would give an error after 5 or 6 tests.
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51325v (There was no effect in changing this value.)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25900v (1.21v will begin to give errors or freezes)
DRAM Voltage: 2.02525v (Had to up this to at least 1.99v to keep it 12 hour Prime stable)
North Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.23250v (Around 1.20v Prime blend will errors once in a while)
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11341v
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51106v

CPU GTL Reference(0): -25mV (DATA for Die0)
CPU GTL Reference(1): -90mV (DATA for Die1)
CPU GTL Reference(2): -60mV (ADDR for Die0, somewhat sensitive to freezes)
CPU GTL Reference(3): -30mV (ADDR for Die1)
NB GTL Reference: +20mV (Higher then +40 will result in freeze, lower then Auto will result in Prime95 errors)
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: -50.0mV (Required for slightly lower DDR2 Voltage)
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: -50.0mV (Required for slightly lower DDR2 Voltage)
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Not sure what you guys use for benchmarking, but here are some test results/scores:
AIDA64 Memory Tests:
Read: 8939MB/s
Write: 10115MB/s
Copy: 10134MB/s
Latency: 56.4ns

PerformanceTest 64-bit (PassMark)
Memory: 1582.7 (Final Score)
CPU: 6471.7 (FInal Score)


I hope my scores are decent compared to other systems redface.gif
Cheers!
Edited by Marctraider - 3/27/12 at 9:34am
post #5506 of 6494
Great OC man.. thumb.gif

That Maximus II Gene is a real treat to work with,it has so many advanced OC options in the BIOS that are nesesarry for high FSB OC (especially on C2Quad)..

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Here are the screen shots - I tried to follow King T's guide as much as I could (Thanks for the template btw)

I didn't quite understand the memory options. I have 4X2gig memory modules with varied latency shown below and MSI Afterburner clocks my 4970X2 at:

Core Clock - 760mhz
Memory Clock - 940mhz

450
450
450
450
450
Edited by majnu - 3/27/12 at 1:06pm
post #5508 of 6494
Hi this is me joining. I love my Pro turbo and how easy it was to learn how to overclock on. Just wanted to submit my application, hope to return here often for tips, giving and taking. Excited to find you all!
post #5509 of 6494
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Originally Posted by majnu View Post

would it not be possible for someone to laod the rom from their motherboard and upload it somewhere? KingT can you help, or is that not advisable?

thanks

edit - are these the ones, I think they might be, but can someone with more experience confirm?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?200109-Modded-ASUS-P5Q-Pro-Deluxe-Premium-BIOS&p=5010729&viewfull=1#post5010729

I've downloaded and opened the file and they contain the following files:

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

382

 


Hi majnu, that should be it! Good find! thumb.gif Happy 1st REP! cheers.gif

 

Quite some users found that modded BIOSes made next to no difference in OC potential or stability... so as for me, I'm sticking with the lastest official 0602 BIOS for PRO Turbo. biggrin.gif


 

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Hello there Asus P5Q owners. smile.gif

I know these questions are really repetitive and tiresome, and I know someone will always give the answer 'use the search', but I am having some rather odd results when trying to overclock my system... I have a Q9550 and an Asus P5Q Pro (as per my system in my sig), and I have been trying to squeeze a little bit more muscle out of it to power my crossfire setup lately, but basically this is an attempt to hold me back from upgrading now as I would really like to wait until Haswell. tongue.gif

I have already started a thread (probably should've posted my issue in here first, but didn't want to add to the length of this topic and would of rathered keep track of what people know about my problem and are able to recommend, as will anyone else that stumbles across this issue and finds my topic).

http://www.overclock.net/t/1230963/overclocking-q9550-e0-p5q-pro-with-4x-1gb-hyperx-6870-crossfire

Thank you to anyone and everyone that has a read and can put forward some of their knowledge in an attempt to help me out. smile.gif


Hi DJ_GLiTCH! Welcome to OCN and Welcome aboard! wave2.gif

 

As for overclocking, try tweak only with VCore, vFSB, and vNB while have the rest voltages set to their minimum default.

 

Overclocking aims are to keep voltages as low as possible and temps as low as possible while achieving high oc.

 

If you are using all 4 DIMM slots, do bump up a bit on vNB to at least 1.2V for stability.

 

Never try to use more than 1.4V for VCore, vFSB, or vNB.

 

In case you haven't already done so... Check out the 1st page 1st and 2nd post for resource and pointers. wink.gif

Thanks for the help! Happy Overclocking! cheers.gif

 

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Originally Posted by Marctraider View Post

Ok guys I think my overclock is finished. This is a 24/7 Stable Overclock and its all I could push out of her for that particular goal. I will post the BIOS settings here for anyone else as a reference and hopefully some help.

Corsair DDR800 2x2GB CL5
Q9450 2.66GHz / 1333FSB

Overclocked:

DDR1141 6-6-6-15
Q9450 3.82GHz / 1900FSB


Bios settings:

Click to check out the awesome BIOS settings! (Click to show)

 


CPU Ratio Setting: Auto
FSB Frequency: 475 (Can achieve 485 but I'm good with this OC)
CPU Clock Skew: Delay 200ps (Can probably run stable all skews on Auto or normal, but it seemed having exactly 200ps difference between CPU and NB gave me the best results. Like 300/100, 500/300, 700/500)
NB Clock Skew: Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

CAS# Latency: 6 (tCL)
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 6 (tRCD)
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 6 (tRP)
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15 (tRAS)
RAS# to RAS# Delay: 1 (tRRD)
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 50 (tRFC)
Write Recovery Time: 2 (tWR)
Read to Precharge Time: 1 (tRTP)

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 7 (tRTW)
Write to Read Delay (S): 3 (tWTR_S)
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 4 (tWTR_D)
READ to READ Delay (S): 5 (tRTR_S) (Had to bump this from 4 to 5 to keep stability on higher DRAM clockspeed, rest of the timings are all tightened.)
READ to READ Delay (D): 6 (tRTR_D)
WRITE to WRITE Delay(S): 4 (tWTW_S)
WRITE to WRITE Delay(D): 4 (tWTW_D)

WRITE to PRE Delay: 11 (tWTPD)
READ to PRE Delay: 1 (tRTPD)
PRE to PRE Delay: 1 (tPTPD)
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 5 (tAPTAD)
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 5 (tAPTRD)

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled (No real stability effect)
DRAM Read Training: Enabled (No real stability effect)
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled (To achieve higher Clock speeds above DDR1000 I had to enable this to keep things stable)
AI Clock Twister: Moderate (Strong would introduce some errors)
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level (tRD): 09 (Lowest as it will go)
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Enabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5: Enabled
Load-Line Calibration: Enabled (With this I both have lower Idle/Load temps and I could bring my Voltage down to 1.23v)
CPU Differential Amplitude: 800mV (I'm not actually sure if this had any effect on my overclocking, but it seems to work fine smile.gif
PCIE Frequency: 100 (Just left it at 100, 100 or 101 it all doesn't matter for stability.

CPU Voltage: 1.23125v (At 1.21v IntelBurnTest would give an error after 5 or 6 tests.
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51325v (There was no effect in changing this value.)
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.25900v (1.21v will begin to give errors or freezes)
DRAM Voltage: 2.02525v (Had to up this to at least 1.99v to keep it 12 hour Prime stable)
North Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.23250v (Around 1.20v Prime blend will errors once in a while)
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage: 1.11341v
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage: 1.51106v

CPU GTL Reference(0): -25mV (DATA for Die0)
CPU GTL Reference(1): -90mV (DATA for Die1)
CPU GTL Reference(2): -60mV (ADDR for Die0, somewhat sensitive to freezes)
CPU GTL Reference(3): -30mV (ADDR for Die1)
NB GTL Reference: +20mV (Higher then +40 will result in freeze, lower then Auto will result in Prime95 errors)
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage: -50.0mV (Required for slightly lower DDR2 Voltage)
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage: -50.0mV (Required for slightly lower DDR2 Voltage)
North Bridge DDR Reference: Auto

CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled


Not sure what you guys use for benchmarking, but here are some test results/scores:
AIDA64 Memory Tests:
Read: 8939MB/s
Write: 10115MB/s
Copy: 10134MB/s
Latency: 56.4ns

PerformanceTest 64-bit (PassMark)
Memory: 1582.7 (Final Score)
CPU: 6471.7 (FInal Score)

 

 



I hope my scores are decent compared to other systems redface.gif
Cheers!


 

Awesome oc Marctraider! Thanks for sharing the settings! Rep+ for you! thumb.gif

 

Would you like to post your CPU-Z oc validation and stress test results too?

 

Also, if you have time, please post rig gallery and I will link it beside your username in the 1st page!wink.gif
Happy overclocking! cheers.gif

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by majnu View Post

Here are the screen shots - I tried to follow King T's guide as much as I could (Thanks for the template btw)

I didn't quite understand the memory options. I have 4X2gig memory modules with varied latency shown below and MSI Afterburner clocks my 4970X2 at:

Core Clock - 760mhz
Memory Clock - 940mhz
Click to check out the RAMs in close up HD quality! (Click to show)


450
450
450
450
450

 



majnu, do fill in your system specs with Rig Builder! It's always better that way! specool.gif

 

Feel free to post your rig gallery here in this club! Happy overclocking! cheers.gif


 

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnwethek View Post

Hi this is me joining. I love my Pro turbo and how easy it was to learn how to overclock on. Just wanted to submit my application, hope to return here often for tips, giving and taking. Excited to find you all!


Hi johnwethek! Welcome to OCN and Welcome aboard! wave2.gif

 

Glad you've found PRO Turbo easy to oc with! Thanks for offering to help out here! thumb.gif

 

See 1st and 2nd post in the 1st page for resource! Do fill in your system specs with Rig Builder. wink.gif

Free free to post rig gallery, validation, questions and answers in this club! Happy overclocking! cheers.gif

 


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Ok I decided that the best way is to take the methodical approach to overclock, instead of winging it with numbers from other people. I have read basic guides to overclocking now and I understand that:

1. Core Voltage (VCore) must not exceed 1.4V
2. 40 degrees Idle and 55-60 degrees at Load is the ideal temperature to have
3. Increment the FSB at 10Mhz at a Time.

Following that rule I just left everything at Stock Bios, Disabled Speed Step and CIE in Advanced features. Then I just upped the FSB ny 10Mhz at a time until I reached 1.4V from CPUZ in WIndows and I chose the FSB before I reached that goal.

443 FSB = 3765.82Mhz @ 1.376V
I reached a 453FSB = 3850.58Mhz @ 1.376V This is what I settled on
463 FSB = 3935.10Mhz @ 1.41V

I am running Prime95 now and I got a Worker 1 stopped error after 10 mins. So how do I go forward from this point?
Quote:
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.

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