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post #5881 of 6481
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Originally Posted by xraptor69 View Post


I'm trying to go to 450, without straining voltages too much, what BIOS settings would you guys recommend for say a 450-453FSB with this board? Also is the CPU PLL voltage important in reaching that FSB?

On the 1st page of this club there are many great guides and essentials for P5Q users, among them there is my 450 - 460FSB overclocking template with a C2Q Q9550 CPU (includes stress testing methodology).

Here it is: http://www.overclock.net/t/773046/official-asus-p5q-pro-turbo-pro-turbo-owners-club-all-asus-p45-mobo-owners-welcome/2260#post_12705525

P.S.: Due limitation of CPU GTL options in BIOS for P5Q, P5Q Pro and P5Q Pro TURBO motherboards are pretty much limited around 450MHz FSB with C2Ouad CPU installed.

Only higher end motherboards like P5Q-E, P5Q Deluxe and P5Q Premium have extended options for CPU GTL and NB GTL available in BIOS that can help with high FSB overclocking on C2Quad processors.


CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 5/22/13 at 10:33am
     
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post #5882 of 6481
Thanks for the quick response. I've tried to get 450 before, I've loosened pretty much everything when doing that, ive just got things tightened ATM to get most of the performance I can with 440FSB, I think i need more VTT than 1.26? I remember once I got it stable with that (i think) now when I run LargeFFTs I get about 4 minutes with it.

I'll give that guide a go and will let you know how it turns out. But yeah its a real shame that this board doesn't have those GTL settings, it's really holding back what this q9400 can do. Being a R0 Stepping, it's been a champ to overclock so far.

Thanks guys.
post #5883 of 6481
Hey everyone!!! It's been forever since i came here. Still crunchin code with my pro turbo. biggrin.gif

As for the most recently discussed things, I used to be able to run 450 FSB, getting a nice 3.8GHz from a Q9550. I think my RAM is tired of going that fast however. My computer got a little sketchy and i bought her down to 400 again and she seemed alright. Tightened up the RAM timings a tad to make up for some lost speed. Good luck to all those attempting what is the maximum practical overclock imo.

Had some questions if anyone wants to offer advice. I just got my first SSD!!! SUPER happy. It's a Samsung 840 series 250GB. One of the best for your buck drives out there atm.

I know i'm limiting it with only a SATA II hookup. Would people suggest i get a SATA III controller (PCI or similar) and boot from there for more speed?

Is that going to take YET another windows install for me, or a marginally simple hot swap?
Without a SATA III card are there settings that could maximize my SSD's ability on the stock sata port?

And if i CAN boot from a SATA III PCI card, is that going to be a headache to get working right? More than it's worth trying anyway? I don't remember the SSD market from when this mobo was introduced, but it was fairly weak when i bought the last one (Pro Turbo) on amazon several years ago.

Thanks for any opinions, tips, shared experiences, whatever you wanna throw my way.

Also any tips to get back to my 450FSB would be cool as well, i know it was already discussed. Or is there a nice happy setting the board like around 425 to compromise. Any tips beyond applying, adding a smidge of Vcore, testing, i could do that but
Is it worth it to go back to 4GBs of RAM that will handle a 450FSB better than my 8GB at 400FSB (3.4GHz)?

PS, some specs in case you wanted to know
P5Q Pro Turbo with OCZ something RAM, Q9550 with the 'good' stepping (what my friend who i bought it from said) and is also polished for better heat transfer to my BIG COPPER ZALMAN (looks TOO good on this board not to go with flashy copper)
GTX 460 SC EE OC'd modestly.
post #5884 of 6481
Hey mate. I have an Asus P5Q Pro. I also have the exact same SSD. Even with a SATA II port, the difference was amazing over my 750GB Seagate. Restarting windows is never a waiting issue for me, It boots up really quickly. Ive put Battlefield 3 on it and load times are fantastic.

However with SATAII im limited to around 260MB/s, which is pretty much half of what the drive can actually do when reading and writing sequentially, the only thing you could possible do to increase SATAII performance is by increasing PCI-E Frequency, that may help, but you won't go far with that. I'd get a new PCIe Sata III controller. I think you may not have to reinstall windows, only if you install the driver for that controller before you go and stick the windows drive on there. I've also read that with the PCIe SATAIII controllers, the PCIe Frequency can also boost SSD performance even further. Just google it.

As for your FSB. I'm currently running 440MHz with 8GB ram no worries at all. I even have clocktwister set on strong and some of the other memory timings tightened, such as the row refresh cycle time and Read to Read delay. The biggest factor i found in getting it stable was by setting RAS to CAS delay at 6. Setting it at 5 would result in the whole system doing really weird stuff. BF3 would last about 5 minutes.

What settings do you have currently for 400 but can't go higher?
post #5885 of 6481
Thanks for the response and tips. As for my setup I've just got everything set to auto mostly right now with the exception of voltages. Been doing a few re-installs of windows thanks to bad drives from Newegg's new shipping methods: Throw something in the corner of a box, stick some paper over it, drop kick it to DHL, let them manhandle it across the country before chucking it over to usps.

I'll fiddle more with my RAM setup.

Still wondering though if using a PCI express SATAIII controller is a pain to boot from. Or rather a pain to get it setup to boot from.

Thanks again for the response, I would jump into BIOS and check all the settings but windows is doing its thing (updates) and i've got reinstallation headaches. Will certainly be back here when i attack the OC'ing more head on.
post #5886 of 6481
FOrgot to ask. I can't get TRIM to work on my SSD. Command Prompt tells me it's working. The Samsung utility 'optimized' it, but nothing specifically said about TRIM, and Hard Drive Sentinel is still showing no TRIM active (but it is supported). Any tips?
post #5887 of 6481
It will feel quicker than an old HDD (Although it is speed limited)

I also had a bit of a time getting the O/S to be read from it.

Unplugged all HDDs apart from the SSD via SATA3 card
Used windows install disk to repair things with auto repair function.

It wasn't a smooth operation but I did not need to reinstall windows.
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Thanks Olly. I had to do all that disconnecting just to install windows. When i DIDN'T the 1st time it installed boot info on a hard drive that recently died and made the entire system inoperable. The install disc repair didn't want to help me either in that scenario. If i'm feeling like going under the desk to unplug and plug stuff back in (if my broken back will ease up on the spasms today) i'll definitely give it a shot. Anyone with a suggestion as to the most P5q friendly brand of add-on cards? I assume ASUS if they make one, but i haven't really looked too deeply. Too mad at newegg and their AWFUL shipping practices.
post #5889 of 6481
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Hi xraptor69 and welcome aboard!!! wave2.gif

 

KingT is certainly the go to guy when talking about P5Q PRO and quad core overclocking. specool.gif

 

It would be nice if you can fill out your system info using Rigbuilder. wink.gif

 

Have fun! cheers.gif

 

 

Hi johnwethek, if you can still get ASUS U3S6 add on card, get one. I know MSI made a similar one too. wink.gif

 

I really don't agree to the way how products/shipments are being handled... People drop, throw, kick, step, and sit on them. No wonder the products are defective straight out of the box. thinking.gif

 

As for RAMs, OCZ is bad and so is Corsair imo... as I had bad experience using them. On the other hand, Kingston is great and G.Skill is pretty good! I would recommend you to use Kingston for stability. thumbsupsmiley.png

 

Enjoy! cheers.gif

     
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Hey OCMAN. I HAD already decided that i would just stick to my SATA II ports and usb2 for the rest of this computer's life but that model number intrigued me, so i bought a cheap used one as a compromise. People praise it in tests on the USB 3 side of it anyway, I guess it's very particular about what mobo's it will work with for sataIII. But it looks like it was practically made FOR the p5q so i will give it a shot.

I uploaded a JSON to Rig Builder but i think it's missing a bunch of info, also the ram voltage looks way too low, or i'm just mixing it up with my old ballistix (V hungry). Saving txt and http reports on that utility aren't working for me. Otherwise i'd put all that here too. B/t the two descriptions of the same computer (i guess i did one a long time ago) there should be almost enough info. I need to go to BIOS and write everything down. Maybe this weekend when i clean it and do a case fan swap (spins in opposite direction of cpu cooler even though it pushes air in the same direction, hoping a switch will take off some of the fan noise.

Forgive my laziness. I would think of an excuse but i'm that lazy feeling atm. Still, i really appreciate the attention and feedback (and impulse purchasing motivation) from everyone. I'm looking forward to hopefully speeding up with that add-on card. It'll look awesome in there too. If not i might have a U3S6 for sale here pretty soon!
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