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post #631 of 6471
GTL is annoying on this board as you can only set one value, and for better overclocking you would requre 2 values. Personally im sitting on auto == 0.615 which is more or less the same as 0.61. (imho)
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post #632 of 6471
I've never heard of SAFE range of CPU GTL voltage only of sweetspot for it that makes your high FSB OC stable in P95 LARGE FFT test..

CPU GTL voltage in BIOS of these ASUS boards are in fact a multiplier of FSB voltage..

Intel states for 45nm CPU-s default GTL voltage is 0.67x 1.10V FSBvoltage = 0.737V..

So if you change FSB voltage you automaticaly change actual GTL voltage..

That's why you have to change CPU GTL multi @ high FSB OCing as you start to add FSB voltage..

So for an eg. If you use FSB voltage 1.20V you should use 0.61X CPU GTL multi to be close to Intel default GTL voltage of 0.737V (1.20 x 0,61 = 0.737V)

Due lack of proper CPU GTL options in BIOS on P5Q Pro/Pro TURBO mobos (only three options same for all 4 cores) users are limited when OCing C2Q as those chips are really dependent on proper GTL voltage when pushed @ high FSB freq..

High end mobos have a whole range of CPU GTL multis or the GTL voltage is being set like Vcore (0.00xxxV) above default 0.737V and they can be set independently for each pair of cores..

I hope that I've explained the real situation with GTL voltage..

CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 11/18/10 at 11:02am
     
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post #633 of 6471
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@ THE FLOYD EFECT

Try these settings:

FSB freq = 450MHz
DRAM TIMINGS=5-5-5-15(rest on auto) or by memory spec
STRAP=AUTO
DRAM freq=900Mhz
DRAM STATIC READ CONTROL = DISABLED
DRAM READ TRAINING = DISABLED
OC charger=Enabled
AI booster=Enabled
Performance Level=10 (if unstable enter diff value)
8.5 CPU multi

Vcore=1.300V (or what Chip needs to hit 3.85GHz,shouldn't need more,add a bit if you crash)
CPU GTL = 0.65x
PLL=1.54
FSB voltage=1.26V
DRAM voltage=2.1V (or what memory requires)
NBv=1.30V
SBv=1.2V
PCIE/SATA voltage=1.60V

CPU & PCIE Spread spectrum=Disable
CPU & NB skew=AUTO
Load Line Calibration=ENABLED


All options in CPU Configuration set @ DISABLE and CPU MULTI @ 8.5

1.First test your RAM with memtest v.4.0 run 4 instances with 850MB of dedicated RAM for each..untill it reaches @ least 100% of testing

2.Test it with Intel Burn Test 20 RUNS with MAX RAM available for test.(For setting enough Vcore for that OC,if you fail just add more Vcore)

3.Then if you pass IBT test it with at least 6h of Preime95 Large FFT test (I prefer 12h testing).

4.If you pass all tests then you're ROCK SOLID..

Try to keep your core temperatures under 75C under load in any of stress tests..

Running RAM @ 900MHz will help your system's stability and easier OC as you will not benefit much from running RAM @ higher speeds..

I run my RAM @ 918MHz (459MHz FSB) and this is my memory bandwith in Everest:

read: 8400MB/s
write: 9700MB/s
copy: 9400MB/s
Latency:62ns

Try to run this benchmark and rate your memory bandwidth and you'll see that there is not much difference between 918MHz & 1066MHz at these high FSB OCing..

BUT IF YOU'RE STABLE WITH RAM @ HIGHER SPEEDS (IF YOU PASS MEMTEST) THEN JUST KEEP IT THAT WAY..

Good Luck

CHEERS..


I applied those settings and ran intel burn test and it passed. One thing I noticed was it only brought my highest core to 72C and the others in the mid 60's while prime 95 brought my highest core to 75C and 1 or 2C higher on each of the other cores.
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post #634 of 6471
What Vcore are you using and What's CPU OC exactly?

How come IBT gives you lower temps than P95 as on my rig IBT runs 7C hotter than P95..

Maybe your Cooler is not being seated properly or Thermal paste is not being properly applied?

Your A900 case should have enough airflow..

My IBT temps are 70/68/70/70C (20 runs) & P95 63/60/62/62C with Cooler Master Hyper 212 rev.1. and 2000rpm fan on it..

But those temps are OK for testing as you'll never hit such temps in every day usage..

Test RAM with memtest like I've told you and if you pass then run P95 LARGE FFT test for @ least 6h..

CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 11/19/10 at 10:18am
     
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post #635 of 6471
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Originally Posted by KingT View Post
@ THE FLOYD EFECT

Try these settings:

FSB freq = 450MHz
DRAM TIMINGS=5-5-5-15(rest on auto) or by memory spec
STRAP=AUTO
DRAM freq=900Mhz
DRAM STATIC READ CONTROL = DISABLED
DRAM READ TRAINING = DISABLED
OC charger=Enabled
AI booster=Enabled
Performance Level=10 (if unstable enter diff value)
8.5 CPU multi

Vcore=1.300V (or what Chip needs to hit 3.85GHz,shouldn't need more,add a bit if you crash)
CPU GTL = 0.65x
PLL=1.54
FSB voltage=1.26V
DRAM voltage=2.1V (or what memory requires)
NBv=1.30V
SBv=1.2V
PCIE/SATA voltage=1.60V

CPU & PCIE Spread spectrum=Disable
CPU & NB skew=AUTO
Load Line Calibration=ENABLED


All options in CPU Configuration set @ DISABLE and CPU MULTI @ 8.5

1.First test your RAM with memtest v.4.0 run 4 instances with 850MB of dedicated RAM for each..untill it reaches @ least 100% of testing

2.Test it with Intel Burn Test 20 RUNS with MAX RAM available for test.(For setting enough Vcore for that OC,if you fail just add more Vcore)

3.Then if you pass IBT test it with at least 6h of Preime95 Large FFT test (I prefer 12h testing).

4.If you pass all tests then you're ROCK SOLID..

Try to keep your core temperatures under 75C under load in any of stress tests..

Running RAM @ 900MHz will help your system's stability and easier OC as you will not benefit much from running RAM @ higher speeds..

I run my RAM @ 918MHz (459MHz FSB) and this is my memory bandwith in Everest:

read: 8400MB/s
write: 9700MB/s
copy: 9400MB/s
Latency:62ns

Try to run this benchmark and rate your memory bandwidth and you'll see that there is not much difference between 918MHz & 1066MHz at these high FSB OCing..

BUT IF YOU'RE STABLE WITH RAM @ HIGHER SPEEDS (IF YOU PASS MEMTEST) THEN JUST KEEP IT THAT WAY..

Good Luck

CHEERS..
Worked for my Q6600 G0. With the vCore @ 1.54 I got up to 100C during IBT 20 passes, but I dropped my vCore down to 1.5 right now going to keep dropping it down to try and tune it in more, to keep the heat down. Should it be getting that hot? I know the Q6600 65nm chips are hot and have a TJMax or 100C but I didn't think it would get that hot. I have an Artic Freezer Pro 7 should I get a new heatsink or just re apply thermal paste?
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Q6600 G0 TjMAX Thread Check it out

They say it's a 90C Tjmax for Q6600 G0..

Have you used 1.4V FSB,1.3V NB,0.61x CPU GTL and Ai Trans. Booster = AUTO and FSB=400MHz & RAM@ 800MHz with those above settings as they have been previously posted for Q9550..

Your Core temps shouldn't go over 70C so you're running TOOO HOT!!!!

You'll have to use BETTER COOLING on Q6600..to keep that OC otherwise YOU'RE IN RISK OF KILLING YOUR CPU!!!!

CHEERS..
Edited by KingT - 11/20/10 at 1:35am
     
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post #637 of 6471
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@RichieCropper

Q6600 G0 TjMAX Thread Check it out

They say it's a 90C Tjmax for Q6600 G0..

Have you used 1.4V FSB,1.3V NB,0.61x CPU GTL and Ai Trans. Booster = AUTO and FSB=400MHz & RAM@ 800MHz with those above settings as they have been previously posted for Q9550..

Your Core temps shouldn't go over 70C so you're running TOOO HOT!!!!

You'll have to use BETTER COOLING on Q6600..to keep that OC otherwise YOU'RE IN RISK OF KILLING YOUR CPU!!!!

CHEERS..
Changed and checked those settings in bios, finally got my vCore tuned in @ 1.4825v ran IBT and got to 94/94/90/90 again on my cores after 20 passes. I am going to order later today probably a Coolermaster Hyper +212 and some Artic 5 paste maybe that will help the temps in on the CPU.
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post #638 of 6471
Maybe it will but Those Q6600 are real HEATERS... so I'm not sure if CM Hyper 212+ will be able to cope with it..

Try to start a thread about it in Cooling section to find out whot others OCN members think about your Q6600 heat issue..

Maybe you will have to back down your OC to 400MHz FSB x8 multi to lower Vcore & temps..

Run P95 LARGE FFT for 6h or more (12h) with 6x CPU multi & lower Vcore to find out if your FSB OC is stable (are you running sufficient NB & FSB voltage)

If you pass error free then look for a better Cooling for 400 x 9 = 3.6GHz OC..

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Changed and checked those settings in bios, finally got my vCore tuned in @ 1.4825v ran IBT and got to 94/94/90/90 again on my cores after 20 passes. I am going to order later today probably a Coolermaster Hyper +212 and some Artic 5 paste maybe that will help the temps in on the CPU.
Welcome aboard RichieCropper!!!

Feel free to check the 1st page of this club for related info, mods, tips, and guides, to enhance your overclocking experience with the PRO Turbo!

There's an owners club for the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ (I bought it too) , I'm not sure if Arctic Silver 5 is ideal to use...

btw, check out thermal paste application methods page GOOD STUFF!

P.S. IC Diamond 7 should be a better choice over AS5...
Edited by ocman - 11/21/10 at 3:54am
     
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hi there,

I've a problem with my memory, I recently find out that my memory isn't on QVList (QVlist from the link here on this forum) but, there is a version similar, I guess. mine is, Gskill F2-Pc8500 BPQ, on QVL only find BPK.

Is there anyone who as this ram? That can run it at 1066mhz without problems??

I set it manually the timings and frequency, but when I remove my power cord after shutdown, the pc wont start properly and I get a OC failed error.

I did find out that in Gskill site, at the description of my memory BPQ it support this motherboad, i'm confused..

http://www.gskill.com/products.php?index=74

Thanks in advance!
Welcome aboard rgwoods!!!

For incompatible RAMs, try set to use a bit more voltage and looser timings in the BIOS, and see if it helps. This is a general method for stabilizing OC'ed RAMs.

Feel free to check out the 1st page of this club for assistance, and post any of your questions here with regards to the P5Q PRO Turbo!

P.S. Please excuse for the belated welcome...
     
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