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Poll Results: Do you prefer the new OCN?

 
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    Yes!
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    Yes and No!
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    Don't give a damn about it! (LOL)
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post #6421 of 6429
Does BugBash's 0701 moded bios as downloaded from the main page have the micro codes already installed?I cant get the multiplier to manual it is stuck in auto.
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Does BugBash's 0701 moded bios as downloaded from the main page have the micro codes already installed?I cant get the multiplier to manual it is stuck in auto.

Hard to tell as P5Qs are almost 10 years old now smile.gif

You have to try it by yourself.

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Hi. Recently I was finally able to afford to get a PC! Now this PC was under my care from its birth but only now I can finally get the most out of it. Here are the specs: https://valid.x86.fr/l0cxng. There are two things that get in my way though:

  • Whenever I set Ratio to anything other than 9, my OC will 90% fail
  • I put my DDR RAM in yellow slots. Now I tweak many things and today suddenly after changing vCPU from 1.27500 to 1.28125 my PC stopped POSTing...
    After a brief moment of panic, CMOS resets and thinking bout how I'm gonna flash BIOS from a floppy, I remembered this happening before and the solution was to swap RAM to black slots.
    It POSTed.

Can anyone please explain what is the deal with no POST in yellow slots? I don't care about ratios that much but the no POST is a horror.
post #6424 of 6429
If slots are damaged - PC won't start.
Maybe more NB Voltage is required, maybe more DRAM Voltage, maybe both.
BIOS Auto settings may not be optimised for your memory in those specific slots (ie. secondary/tertiary timings bug), who knows.

I recommend checking if Black + Yellow combo will work (it should in Single Channel only).
If it does, it simpy means MB "doesn't like" to boot from memory in those slots (possible explenations listed above).
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If slots are damaged - PC won't start.
Maybe more NB Voltage is required, maybe more DRAM Voltage, maybe both.
BIOS Auto settings may not be optimised for your memory in those specific slots (ie. secondary/tertiary timings bug), who knows.

I recommend checking if Black + Yellow combo will work (it should in Single Channel only).
If it does, it simpy means MB "doesn't like" to boot from memory in those slots (possible explenations listed above).

I don't run on Auto, I set timings manually. It worked fine for a month with many different voltages, settings and OC. It even booted on a stock 2.2V while running at 1040+MHz. How can the slots be damaged? Is it my fault? What bothers me is that it should fall back to stock if the voltage is too low which it tried but got stuck so I hit the reset and it wouldn't boot again. BTW aren't yellow ones for OC on P5Q Pro?
post #6426 of 6429
Hi, guys! I have a question. What's the difference between 16 phase and 8 phase (deluxe vs p5q-e) is that make the deluxe better overclocker?
post #6427 of 6429
It doesn't matter.
P5Q Deluxe has "16 Phases" with 2 MOSFETs per phase (more here : LINK).
While P5Q-E has 8 Phases with 4 MOSFETs per phase.

So, in case of "-E" model, chokes may be a bottleneck for maximum current (but IDK chokes exact specs, so I can't be sure).
Still, 8 Phases with 4 MOSFET's per phase is really powerfull setup (add to that, all MOSFETs are heatsinked).

If a CPU can OC higher on Deluxe than on -E, I would say it's more to do with actual BIOS code and settings available (not VRMs itself).
Edited by agentx007 - 6/7/17 at 12:14am
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post #6428 of 6429
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It doesn't matter.
P5Q Deluxe has "16 Phases" with 2 MOSFETs per phase (more here : LINK).
While P5Q-E has 8 Phases with 4 MOSFETs per phase.

So, in case of "-E" model, chokes may be a bottleneck for maximum current (but IDK chokes exact specs, so I can't be sure).
Still, 8 Phases with 4 MOSFET's per phase is really powerfull setup (add to that, all MOSFETs are heatsinked).

If a CPU can OC higher on Deluxe than on -E, I would say it's more to do with actual BIOS code and settings available (not VRMs itself).
Thanks for replying! I have P5Q-E paired with Q9650. I'm planning to push it to 4.25GHz (8.5x500), 8x500 would be satisfying too.. So as for the BIOS code, is there a certain bios version would help getting better result? Is latest always better? Also what's your opinion about moded Bios that claim to deliver more stability and more overclock headroom?
post #6429 of 6429
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So as for the BIOS code, is there a certain bios version would help getting better result? Is latest always better? Also what's your opinion about moded Bios that claim to deliver more stability and more overclock headroom?
In general, maybe but I doubt it in this case : P5Q-E are one of the last LGA 775 boards, so all quirks of the platform are well known, and BIOS itself is mature to a point where it shoudn't matter that much (AUTO settings can be better optimised on other boards, but that's about it).
Is latest always better : I say it depends on board, but in your case it is (since latest it isn't a "Beta" BIOS).

Moded BIOS...
They are usually tailored to a specific configuration for easier/higher OC (RAM Tables), and use latest uCode and Oproms (for best bug free experience).

Do they work ?
Sure. Most of the hardcore tweaking is done by them (they can't help you, if you don't know how to set basic things).
They are helpful in OC competitions where you are limited by time (or can't remember all best settings for a given setup from the "top of your head").

Can you get the same performance without them ?
Sure.
It only takes a lot of time, but at the end of it you have a lot better knowledge/understanding of how to tweak the platform.

For me, I'm good enough (or lazy enough) on a LGA 775 to not use tweaked/moded BIOS'es... unless I actually need features that they bring (like higher capacity RAM/Xeon support, or unlocked OC options in case of some "locked" OEM boards).

PS. 500MHz on FSB for full Quad Cores ain't that easy to do.
I did 474MHz (C1 rev. chip) : https://valid.x86.fr/2bpie2
And 500MHz on Q8400 : https://valid.x86.fr/sf30tg wink.gif
Simple valid, not tested for stability.
Edited by agentx007 - 6/9/17 at 12:27am
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