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Poll Results: Do you prefer the new OCN?

 
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Normally if this it is set right to 1066 in the BIOS. It should show ~533 next to DRAM freq. under the Memory tab in CPU-Z.
Oh okay, I do have it set right then! I see 533.8MHz right now. I set my FSB to 333 instead of 334 and it showed 1066 instead of 1065. I set the FSB strap to north bridge to 333 as well, since I saw them do that in a G.Skill manual. I was under the assumption that CPU-Z would show the frequency as 1066MHz

Edit: Oh, 533x2 is 1066. I get it now.
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Redmist, you got a lot of Reps!!! Awesome!!! How did you do it?
Some of it is from being helpful, some of it is from being funny/sarcastic.

You'll have more soon enough, you're a really helpful guy!
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Oh okay, I do have it set right then! I see 533.8MHz right now. I set my FSB to 333 instead of 334 and it showed 1066 instead of 1065. I set the FSB strap to north bridge to 333 as well, since I saw them do that in a G.Skill manual. I was under the assumption that CPU-Z would show the frequency as 1066MHz

Edit: Oh, 533x2 is 1066. I get it now.

Some of it is from being helpful, some of it is from being funny/sarcastic.

You'll have more soon enough, you're a really helpful guy!
Redmist, you got it!!! I'm happy for you!!! Thanks man!!!
     
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I actually had it above 1066 (1116) at one point and didn't even know it

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Nice!!! Less variables to deal with. Just make them run 1:1 ratio and use other values I have given you previously to see if stable at 4GHz.

For prolong cpu stress testing, I've only used Prime95 and IntelBurnTest 2.4 & 2.5. I'm not sure about OCCT...

MCpetrolhead who help me almost right from the start told me he had his E5200 M0 chip pushed well above 100 C... To me, that's insane good!!! His chip was golden.
I resolved the OCCT logging issue I had.
It was writing the data files to the Admin userid folder instead of where the error message was pointing me. I reported this to the OCCT folks....

I can't seem to sustain 4GHz through longer testing periods in neither Prime95 nor OCCT. I suspect my chip can not handle this and introduces errors/instability.

I increased the CPU voltage to 1.44375 and while it will start the tests it won't run them for long. I also noted that now that I have the OCCT logging the temperatures that it looks like the load temperature climbs to 57C before the test dies.

I am going to try 1.45V for the CPU to see if that helps. Any other suggestions on this. It looks like your water cooling works MUCH better at keeping the temperatures low in a loading situation.
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I resolved the OCCT logging issue I had.
It was writing the data files to the Admin userid folder instead of where the error message was pointing me. I reported this to the OCCT folks....

I can't seem to sustain 4GHz through longer testing periods in neither Prime95 nor OCCT. I suspect my chip can not handle this and introduces errors/instability.

I increased the CPU voltage to 1.44375 and while it will start the tests it won't run them for long. I also noted that now that I have the OCCT logging the temperatures that it looks like the load temperature climbs to 57C before the test dies.

I am going to try 1.45V for the CPU to see if that helps. Any other suggestions on this. It looks like your water cooling works MUCH better at keeping the temperatures low in a loading situation.
csanii, R0 chips usually need a tiny bit more voltage to hit 4GHz compare to M0 chips.

If raising only vcore doesn't work (as 1.45V is relatively high, since hitting 4Ghz should not need that much), now try raise FSB terminal voltage and/or north bridge voltage one step at a time... and start with a 1.42500V vcore.

People say 1.464V is the maximum voltage E5200 would take while still being safe for the chip in the long run.

P.S. There are mainly three voltages affect overclocking: VCore, FSB terminal, and north bridge.

The temps you have aren't bad... i think they are in the normal range during stress test.

I run Prime95 blend test and temp is around low 50s and its reaches high 50s to low 60s when running small FFTs test.

In general, I found high flow chassis, and high air flow chassis config is a vacuum cleaner or dust collector. Need to clean out the dust every week... to maintain best possible cooling performance.
Edited by ocman - 8/15/10 at 10:58am
     
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Hi tokhoi, try specify the minimum values for the voltages except for Vcore in the BIOS. What CPU to DRAM FSB ratio is it right now? What ever the case is... try bring them to 1:1 --> CPU 1MHz : DRAM 2MHz. so if you want to try 250 CPU FSB...your DRAM FSB will be 500. 1:1 ratio is best for overclocking.

AI/AUTO in BIOS basically load the optimize values for your computer. AI features found in the BIOS and in the software (that came with the board) are documented in the user guide for this mobo, and it's also available online on ASUS' website. You can also find software and drivers updates there online too.

Your temps looked pretty good to me... your temps aren't the problem. Problem may be your DRAM settings and voltage related settings.
So I set me FSBRAM ratio to 1:1 at 250FSB, and it booted up. I had no idea what all the minimum voltages were for my system. I set the memory voltage at 1.80 as that is what my memory is rated at. I also set the AI tweaker to light. This seemed to work and i ran Prime 95 blend test for about 4.5 hours before my computer shut down in the middle of the night. I got about 33-35 degrees idle and about 47-48 degrees under load from what i saw.

So this is what i believe is the problem. I had 2 sets of DDR2 PC2 6400, but from different makers, I thought that with the same minimum voltages and cas latency that they would work together but i believe they were giving me instabilities. So i pulled a set out and returned it and i've got rid of the problems with the bsod and installed a fresh installation of windows. i upped the voltage of the ram to 1.9 and i was able to boot at 3.5GHz but have not had the chance to do some stress testing. So thanks Ocman.

The problem i am having now is that sometimes i can't post and it gives me 4 beeps. from what i read it is a video card error. Has anyone been having problems with the video? or have suggestions as to what the problem is? i can eventually get it to boot if i play with the the video card, like making sure the power to it is in and making sure the card is seated properly. but essentially not making any actual changes but it'll boot again... maybe i'll try pulling it out and re-installing it. I'll post back when i get a chance to stress test at 3.5GHz.
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So I set me FSBRAM ratio to 1:1 at 250FSB, and it booted up. I had no idea what all the minimum voltages were for my system. I set the memory voltage at 1.80 as that is what my memory is rated at. I also set the AI tweaker to light. This seemed to work and i ran Prime 95 blend test for about 4.5 hours before my computer shut down in the middle of the night. I got about 33-35 degrees idle and about 47-48 degrees under load from what i saw.

So this is what i believe is the problem. I had 2 sets of DDR2 PC2 6400, but from different makers, I thought that with the same minimum voltages and cas latency that they would work together but i believe they were giving me instabilities. So i pulled a set out and returned it and i've got rid of the problems with the bsod and installed a fresh installation of windows. i upped the voltage of the ram to 1.9 and i was able to boot at 3.5GHz but have not had the chance to do some stress testing. So thanks Ocman.

The problem i am having now is that sometimes i can't post and it gives me 4 beeps. from what i read it is a video card error. Has anyone been having problems with the video? or have suggestions as to what the problem is? i can eventually get it to boot if i play with the the video card, like making sure the power to it is in and making sure the card is seated properly. but essentially not making any actual changes but it'll boot again... maybe i'll try pulling it out and re-installing it. I'll post back when i get a chance to stress test at 3.5GHz.
What's your vcore now? What multiplier and fsb freq. are you using to get 3.5GHz? I don't have trouble with video, generally speaking. Do you have another working graphics card to replace to see if that is indeed the problem causing the beeps and not able to post?

For minimum values, what I mean is that, choose the first option you see with the lowest value for each voltage field.
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After physically reinstalling the video card i haven't had the problem with the beeps. Still having the problem of when turning it on, i get no post just black screen. after resetting a few times and when it actually does post it seems very stable. I ran prime95 on it last night with it clocked at 250*13=3.25GHz (i stepped it down cause i was having the posting problem, but the problem is still there at 3.25GHz) for 8 hours with no problems. getting idle temps of 33-34 degrees and max temps of 45-46 degrees under load. i left vcore in auto and only changed the ram voltage to 1.9 from 1.8. so i believe last time it crashed after 4.5 hours was likely cause the ram voltage was too low.

I am thinking that i am having problems posting because the auto vcore voltage is too low on start up. Under load at 3.25GHz i think the vcore voltage was at 1.26ish so i'm thinking if i set this to 1.30 when i run it at 269*13=3.497GHz then perhaps it will post and not just give me a black screen when i try to boot up. What do you guys think?
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