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post #981 of 6429
"FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file."

???

Where is the stress.txt file?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by virus86 View Post
"FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file."

???

Where is the stress.txt file?
Nevermind the stress.txt file..

What were the settings in BIOS (voltages,FSB, etc) and for how long have test ran?

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post #983 of 6429
It ran for 45 minutes and my CPU was set to 1.33125V.

First, I just choose 1.325V at random, but Windows froze. So I bumped it up and ran the first test, which yield the fatal error. I just bumped it up to 1.3375V and running the test again.
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post #984 of 6429
Lol! Took out one RAM stick and my setup is overclocking like a God! Using 3x2GB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 now. I didn't have to touch those 2nd row timings their at auto. And if that was not enough, I actually run my RAM at 1057MHz now at 5-5-5-15 2.1 Volts. CPU at 3.96GHz 440FSB. Also I have all my pullins enabled, static read enabled and AI at Strong. Because I'm not running RAM at 1:1 I could also drop my PL from 10 down to 8.

And I know I run Async Dual Channel now. I tested the difference between Async and regular Dual channel. Small differences. Anyway, when running with 8GB I had to run 1:1 with PL 10, I had to turn those second row timings up and loosen everything. So this Async mode will be much faster not matter what.

I AIDA64 right now I'm seeing this mem performance: Read Speed: 8891 MB/sec, Write Speed: 9252 MB/sec, Copy Speed: 8170 MB/sec and Lantency: 59.1 ns

Edit: Will probably have to downclock RAM al little as I know they are not good for much more than 1030MHz. But no matter if my RAM is stable at only 1:1 I don't care. If all my problems are gone now and I can overclock like this and keep stability I will be happy with 6GB in Async Dual mode. I could run 4GB in regular Dual channel too, but I want a little extra
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Here are some results from AIDA64 running 2x2GB Dual Channel at 1033MHz 5-5-5-15 compared to 3x2GB running Async Dual channel at same speed. CPU is 430FSB x9 PL is 8.

2x2GB - Sync Dual Channel
READ: 8815 MB/s
Write: 9138 MB/s
Copy: 9142 MB/s
Latency: 58.8 ns

3x2GB - Async Dual Channel
READ: 8685 MB/s
Write: 9112 MB/s
Copy: 8463 MB/s (Did a second run, and this time it showed 8424 MB/s. So seems like results fluctates much. Changed the Copy speed because it now shows 8400 MB/s + pretty consistent.).
Latency: 60.6 ns



Update: 2x2GB Single Channel:
READ: 7289 MB/s
Write: 8087 MB/s
Copy: 6987 MB/s
Latency: 63.6 ns



RAM also seems fine at 1033MHz. Will have to do some more stability testing though. Anyway.. Seems Mem copy speed took the biggest hit. Other than that they are comparable. Async Dual Channel is really not taking a very big hit here.

Another funny thing is that on my Gigabyte GA-P35 DS3R P35 Motherboard the READ and WRITE speeds in AIDA64 is very comparable with the P5Q Pro Turbo when I run my RAM at similar speeds in Dual Channel. Except for the Write speed being even higher on the Gigabyte board. However, in the Gigabyte Board the Copy speed is always much lower, even lower than the P5Q Pro mobo when ran in Async Dual Mode. Could this be some of the explanation of the mem woes with this, and probably many other Asus boards, maybe they have optimized mem settings in bios too tight in some areas...

Update:
My 3x2GB Ballistix mem seems to be running very smoothly in memtest for Windows now at 1033MHz 5-5-5-15 2.0v. They are rated at 800 4-4-4-12 2.0v. And unofficially they are also rated at 1000MHz 5-5-5-15 2.0 according to their SPD. Since they will not do much more than 1033MHz I think this will also limit my CPU clock to 9x 430FSB = 3870MHz. Since when not running mem at 1:1 I can lower PL to 8. So I think this will be a very good 24/7 setting for me. If I up FSB more I then have to run mem at 1:1 and get back to PL10.

So if no one else know if my performance will suffer any more then seen in AIDA64 here, when running mem in Async Dual channel, I will stick with 6GB. Love to get some feedback on this..

And by the way, I gave up on using 8GB on this board when overclocking. Had a very hard time making it stable. And even if I could get it stable, I still had to up those READ to READ timings, making performance suffer somewhat. There is obviously issues with this board and 4x2GB mem. Have searched google and many people couldn't even get it to work at default speeds. Asus should really update the bios. Last bios (0602) came out sometime around spring of 2009, so I highly doubt there will be more bios updates for this board. It's difficult these days to find good socket 775 DDR2 based motherboards, or else I would have bought something else..

As I've said earlier my Gigabyte GA-P35 DS3R which is a 'cheap' P35 motherboard, which I owned for almost 3 years now, have no problems whatsoever overclocking These 4x2GB Crucial Ballistix up to 1000MHz+ when using all 4 modules. And it has no problems with my Geil Black Dragon 8GB kit either. I wonder if this problem affects this Pro Turbo board only, and not the regular P5Q Pro...

In short, using 2x2GB or 3x2GB seems to do the trick for this motherboard. It now overclocks like it should be. I would love to hear from others using 4x2GB in this motherboard when overclocking.

Update: My 3x2GB Crucial Ballistix have just passed 100% in memtest for Windows. Running 1033MHz 5-5-5-15 2.0v. Four sessions of memtest, each with 1250MB RAM, for a total of 5GB. Looking good...

I will post all my settings when I am 100% confident that my system is infact rock solid on a given setting. And shows no erratic behaviour like it did when overclocking with 8GB RAM, like when I tested it Rock solid at 9x 440FSB with memtest for Windows, Prime95 Large FFTs, IBT and suddenly it lost its stability. Probably because some issues with FSB Strap and 8GB... Sometimes my setup was rock solid in the FSB range 430 to 449 and suddenly it wouldn't even boot Windows. However, If I upped FSB to 450 (which did not have this erratic behaviour) and then down to let's say 440FSB, the system was in many cases stable again, for a period of time. My FSB Strap was at auto at all times. So I believe there must have been something strange with 8GB RAM and the FSB strap going on. But keep in mind, even when it was stable It was only because I had upped those READ to READ timings under 2nd information in bios.

I came to think of a possibility here... What If I tried 8GB RAM, booted Windows on a safe setting, and had used TurboV to make a profile and Turbo Key to activate the clocks in Windows. And just adjusted those settings in bios that is not inside TurboV. Like those READ to READ settings. I wonder If by doing this I would avoid that FSB strap bug going on with 8GB. I suspect this occured after reboots or powerdowns. Cause when the computer reboots it would have returned back to those safe settings. And once inside Windows again I could just have pushed the power button to get my overclock back. Anyway, how could I know if the FSB strap was working, even if i booted on safe setting? My best bet would be to let it boot windows at 9 x450FSB, to ensure it had the right strap, then let it downclock to let's say 9x 440FSB by using Turbo Key. Still I would not have managed the High memfrequency I'm using now, and would have to up those READ to READ timings. Just a thought though...

Also, I have tried Ket's modded 0602 bios, which has modded mem table, but I have not tried it after I discovered the READ to READ settings, one notch up with 8GB RAM, as far as I can remember. Maybe it fixes the FSB strap issue when using 8GB RAM...

Update:

Ket's bios did nothing for me when running 8GB RAM. Even though I upped those READ to READ timings.

However, I have tested the above mentioned 6GB configuration perfectly stable now. Used memtest for Windows, Prime95 Large FFT's and IBT. Seems rock solid. No erratic behaviour or symptoms after several reboots, like when using 8GB RAM.

Stable settings using 3x2GB RAM in Async Dual-Channel Mode:


JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 430
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1033

DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: Stronger
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [8]
Pull-In of CHA PH1: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: ENABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: ENABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.30000
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.00
NB Voltage: 1.26
SBridge Voltage: 1.10
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.50

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
Enhancement: Performance



Update: Updated my AIDA64 mem scores with results from running 2x2GB in Single Channel modus.
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post #986 of 6429
So I took some value and have my PC overclocked @ 34.37, and it's booting and running fine, but I cannot get Prime95 to run, I get this:

FATAL ERROR: Rounding was .5, expected less than 0.4

Along with some other stuff.

What do I need to do here

*edit*

FSB is @ 275

DRAM is 541

CPU-V is 1.325


*edit 2*

Not completely related, but what's considered a normal idle temp for this processor/mobo combo? With the stocfk cooler I was getting right around 38-42 C, and even with the aftermarket I purchased installed, I'm getting a similar idle temp. I do still have antivirus and such running, but pretty barren.
Edited by petrieslastword - 1/3/11 at 3:16am
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Hi virus86,

Congrats!!! Glad you're tasting success!!!


Hi petrieslastword,

The error message: "FATAL ERROR: Rounding was .5, expected less than 0.4"

It just simply means you need more voltage(s) like VCore to get testing working at that given CPU freq.

For prolong stress testing or 24/7 operation, avoid setting VCore above 1.4V... but for short term, it's okay to have VCore as high as 1.45V.

P.S. petrieslastword, have you tried changing the BIOS values as listed in this 1st page? As for voltages (excluding VCore and GTL Ref volt), try set them with a minimum value found there.

For my E5200 R0, It took 1.4V to run stably @ 4GHz... it might take a bit more or a bit less VCore for your E5200 to run stably at 4GHz.

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Not completely related, but what's considered a normal idle temp for this processor/mobo combo? With the stocfk cooler I was getting right around 38-42 C, and even with the aftermarket I purchased installed, I'm getting a similar idle temp. I do still have antivirus and such running, but pretty barren.
Hi petrieslastword, my E5200 R0 cooled by Corsair H-50, idle temps are between 26-33C (usually at 29C) depending on the ambient temp. You may want to get a CPU cooler like Cooler Master Hyper 212+ as it's cheap like $20+tax and it performs close to the high end ones. For thermal paste, use IC Diamond 7 (a small tube costed me $15+tax) or else that works fine... if you are to get Hyper212+, there's an owner's club on OCN (link in the 1st page, near bottom of 2nd post)... that tells you what thermal paste to get and how to best apply them.

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Hi virus86,

It just simply means you need more voltage(s) like VCore to get testing working at that given CPU freq.

For prolong stress testing or 24/7 operation, avoid setting VCore above 1.4V... but for short term, it's okay to have VCore as high as 1.45V.
its ok for you to have your vcore as high as 1.8v for a couple hours, of course with proper cooling, but the chip will easily live. I never know why people always think that CPU's are so fragile

they are in fact kind of hard to kill or degrade, unless you REALLY torture them. (like 2.0v PLL or 2v vcore or VTT)

the 45nm core 2 spec is 1.45v BTW, and 65nm is 1.55v. (for both vcore and VTT on both 65 & 45nm)
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