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Good choice!


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If this is a gaming rig, here's some food for thought. Games cannot be made requiring cutting edge processing to operate. There is no way to tone down cpu usage like there is with a graphics card. A video game manufacturer doesn't have the luxury of adding killer stuff for those with a leading edge cpu or dual core to utilize without leaving anything lesser out of luck. If you code a game to use dual core and actually NEED it, then you're marketing your game ONLY to those few that have dual core. The reason that graphics cards are different is because you can create a game with tons of options to make the game work well with every level of performance card. Look at every game you own and look at the processor specs compared to the video card specs. IMO, by the time you need dual core for gaming, you won't own a socket 939 motherboard and a 3800 would be far too slow, so get what's best for now. For now, a 3700 is not only cheaper, but has better gaming performance. That's my .02
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If this is a gaming rig, here's some food for thought. Games cannot be made requiring cutting edge processing to operate. There is no way to tone down cpu usage like there is with a graphics card. A video game manufacturer doesn't have the luxury of adding killer stuff for those with a leading edge cpu or dual core to utilize without leaving anything lesser out of luck. If you code a game to use dual core and actually NEED it, then you're marketing your game ONLY to those few that have dual core. The reason that graphics cards are different is because you can create a game with tons of options to make the game work well with every level of performance card. Look at every game you own and look at the processor specs compared to the video card specs. IMO, by the time you need dual core for gaming, you won't own a socket 939 motherboard and a 3800 would be far too slow, so get what's best for now. For now, a 3700 is not only cheaper, but has better gaming performance. That's my .02
Hm, that's true. Another reason for the 3700+...

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I always thought TP meant ToiletPaper ...but im sure that was just me!
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I hear that the 3700+ is a great chip, but since you pan on using the computer for over a year, go with the dual core.

You may want to consider a Intel system. The current Presler line is turning out to be great OCers. Most people can get the Prelser 920 (2.8Ghz) stable and prime95 tested to 4.2Ghz on AIR!. That is a 1.4Ghz OC! And with the Core Architecture (Conroe) coming out in July, you can easily upgrade the processor (about $250 for a computer that will beat a FX60).

Should you be interested in the Intel system, these processors are great value:

Pentium D 920 (2.8Ghz 800Mhz FSB, 65nm, 2x2mb L2) $250

Pentium D 930 (3.0Ghz 800Mhz FSB, 65nm, 2x2mb L2) $250

Pentium 4 651 Cedar Mill (65nm, 3.4Ghz, 800Mhz FSB, 2x1MBl2) $285.00


Fanboys will tell you that Intel sucks, but the 920 can overclock to be one hell of a processor. Read here:

http://www.overclockers.com.au/artic...?id=452447&P=4

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It is obvious, not only by our results but many other user reports, that “Presler” has huge overclocking potential. One report shows a phase-change cooled Pentium D 920 booting into Windows XP at well above 5.0 GHz. Benchmarking a phase-change cooled 920 seems to be possible between 4.7 and 4.8 GHz. Other reports show phase-change cooled 955 XE samples benchmarked at 5.6 GHz. It seems that even better results are achievable with “Cedar Mill”. OCAU members are reporting to have aircooled samples benchmarking-stable running 60% above default frequency. It is clear that the change to 65nm has given the Pentium 4 a new lease on life - until it will be replaced at the end of 2006. The enormous upward frequency potential gained with the change to 65nm looks also very promising in regard of “Conroe” and “Merom” to be released later this year.
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If you like to game, it's AMD all the way.

Click here! Read that thread. You will find it interesting!

By the way! Intel doesn't suck! They Blow!!!!! Lol! J/K

Intel is a good mfg. of CPU'c and they have there place.
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I always thought TP meant ToiletPaper ...but im sure that was just me!
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Haha, yeah I get that a lot on the 'net... lol


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I hear that the 3700+ is a great chip, but since you pan on using the computer for over a year, go with the dual core.
You may want to consider a Intel system. The current Presler line is turning out to be great OCers. Most people can get the Prelser 920 (2.8Ghz) stable and prime95 tested to 4.2Ghz on AIR!. That is a 1.4Ghz OC! And with the Core Architecture (Conroe) coming out in July, you can easily upgrade the processor (about $250 for a computer that will beat a FX60).
Should you be interested in the Intel system, these processors are great value:
Pentium D 920 (2.8Ghz 800Mhz FSB, 65nm, 2x2mb L2) $250
Pentium D 930 (3.0Ghz 800Mhz FSB, 65nm, 2x2mb L2) $250
Pentium 4 651 Cedar Mill (65nm, 3.4Ghz, 800Mhz FSB, 2x1MBl2) $285.00
Fanboys will tell you that Intel sucks, but the 920 can overclock to be one hell of a processor. Read here:
http://www.overclockers.com.au/artic...?id=452447&P=4
Well, I decided to go with AMD since it seems to be better for gaming. But thanks for the input.

Also, I think that the 3700+ will be enough for what I would need to do for a long time. I can always just sell the CPU for a little cash, then go ahead and upgrade later.

lol, what's funny is that I could build a pretty beastly machine. I have $4,000 in the bank (I'm only 17 and I don't have a job), but I'm pretty cheap and I don't buy many things lol
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Haha, yeah I get that a lot on the 'net... lol



Well, I decided to go with AMD since it seems to be better for gaming. But thanks for the input.

Also, I think that the 3700+ will be enough for what I would need to do for a long time. I can always just sell the CPU for a little cash, then go ahead and upgrade later.

lol, what's funny is that I could build a pretty beastly machine. I have $4,000 in the bank (I'm only 17 and I don't have a job), but I'm pretty cheap and I don't buy many things lol
Now I know why you have $4000 in the bank I do too but it is to finish school
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Now I know why you have $4000 in the bank I do too but it is to finish school
lol, that's good. My friend makes me so mad sometimes, because as soon as he gets any money at all he spends it. Him and I did a little work for my dad over the summer, and I think we earned about $250 each from him, and I have every bit of mine left. He has NONE of it left lol

My dad gave him a check for one paycheck and told him to open a bank account so he could deposit it, and he never did. So he lost like $35 there... lol

Anyways, I'm getting pretty off topic haha

Back on topic: I think I'll stick with the AMD 3700+ SD... lol
And I wrote those steppings down you gave me...
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You can build a beast with under$2500
$1000 on FX-60...
$200 on case and lights
$600 on 2 6800GTX (SLI baby!)
$200 on 320GB HD
$500 on Optical drive, Floppy Drive, and Power supply...and other possible toys.
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