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Originally Posted by thehybridpyro
gotcha
are AMDs still better in some or all aspects, for the average or above average computer user/gamer?
At stock AMD wins.
For your power bill AMD wins

but...

The 9XX OCed can beat OCed AMDs.... (very close)

In general, AMD is better for games, right now, but when Conroe comes around, watch out AMD.... (July)
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how bout OCd AMDs?

but with good cooling your saying that it beats even OCed AMD if u OC it alot?
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post #13 of 62
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Originally Posted by thehybridpyro
how bout OCd AMDs?

but with good cooling your saying that it beats even OCed AMD if u OC it alot?
Read this article where they placed the FX60 and X2 3800 against the 955 and 920. They did stock and Intel got crushed, but OCed, they were close, AMD won some, Intel won some.

http://www.overclockers.com.au/artic...?id=452447&P=1

Intel won:

PCMark05
DVD Shrink
WinRARA
Window Media Encoder
Adobe PhotoShop CS2
ClineBench
Call of Duty 2
BF2

AMD won

3dmark05
Quake 4Business Winstone 2004
LAME MP3

tied:
FEAR

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Overclocked to its maximum stable frequency we found the 920 outrunning a maxed out X2 3800+ in almost all benchmarks.
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Are the dual core Opty's even out?
Yes, for about 3 months now.
    
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I considered the AMD X2 but ended up going with the Presler. The tipping point for me was the Intel Motherboard (the Asus was having BIOS issues with the Preslers) and the 2x2M cache. It was a gut call, but I was more interested in smooth massive multitasking ability over absolute fastest for a given task. Most of the benchmarks don't really tell you the whole story so in the end I went with larger cache since I know that will generally help on the multitasking side. I've ran "fast" computers that were cache starved for my applications and they ran like dogs.

Get a motherboard that will support upgrading to conroe, and you won't be dissapointed since you will have a nice upgrade path.

The Intel D975XBX was demonstrated with Conroe, so it's a reasonably safe bet in that regard but probably isn't as good at overclocking as the Asus line.
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Originally Posted by Manco
I considered the AMD X2 but ended up going with the Presler. The tipping point for me was the Intel Motherboard (the Asus was having BIOS issues with the Preslers) and the 2x2M cache. It was a gut call, but I was more interested in smooth massive multitasking ability over absolute fastest for a given task. Most of the benchmarks don't really tell you the whole story so in the end I went with larger cache since I know that will generally help on the multitasking side. I've ran "fast" computers that were cache starved for my applications and they ran like dogs.

Get a motherboard that will support upgrading to conroe, and you won't be dissapointed since you will have a nice upgrade path.

The Intel D975XBX was demonstrated with Conroe, so it's a reasonably safe bet in that regard but probably isn't as good at overclocking as the Asus line.
Does the Intel D975XBX have any overclock options ?
is it loud ?
my MB thinks it a jet,ASUS on RMA,must have 975x but must overclock
why buy a monster overclocker and not go for a least a pretty huge OC ?
I had already decided to build monster water from hell and had the parts before going back to Intel/ATI . I wanted the best OC Chip I could get opty148-152,4 fx57,fx60 whatever whats another 500$ when your spending 2500 anyway and I was hoping to use my 2GB DDR. still went presler 950
AMD math @ my clock would be 4500 for each Core plus 2Mb Cache
4500x2=9000 + 500 for extra Cache = 9500mhz P4 in AMD math system
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post #17 of 62
The Intel 975X motherboard has 500X more overclocking options than previous Intel boards, but compared to an ASUS or DFI board it is still primitive to overclocking. You can change FSB up to +30% and do slight Vcore changes. If you are going to get a Pentium D 920 and try to get it +4.0Ghz, go with the ASUS board. The ASUS P5WD2-E is the top Intel board out right now, people can easily get the 920 to 4.2Ghz on air.

The P5WD2-E is very quiet with no fans on the motherboard.

You math does not make any sense. To compare AMD to Intel use the 9/5th rule, but that is very basic as well.

What is your budget, if you give me that, I can work with you to build a pretty good OCing Intel machine.
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post #18 of 62
the AMD model number system for year has been meant to be
2700 = 2.7 Ghz P4
3000 = 3.0 GHz P4
3500 = 3.5 Ghz p4
4000 = 4.0 Ghz p4
4800 = 4.8 Ghz p4


and since ive used a ton of both a even went from a 2.8 northwood @3.5 Ghz
to a winchester 3500 with the same evething else and got the exact same performance. I believe AMD are usally dam close with number they use.
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post #19 of 62
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Does the Intel D975XBX have any overclock options ?
is it loud ?
Yes it has lot's of overclock options, but I haven't explored them in very much detail. You can control vcore, and the multipliers, but it probably isn't as flexible as a ASUS board. The only noise is from the CPU fan and without overclocking it was pretty quiet. I went with water to keep it cool though.

Even though it's a new board, there is a BIOS update already and it probably has more options than the previous version.

I heard that the Asus 975 board wasn't booting Preslers without a bios flash and that can be a problem if you get one of those boards and don't have a socket 775 non presler CPU to stuff in there to get the bios flashed. They may have changed that but there is probably still stock out there with the old bios.
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If you get a 900 Pentium D Presler I highly reccomend the P5WD2-E Premium from Asus, with it my Pentium D 930 is stable at 4.21GHz with a Big Typhoon cooling it and completes Super Pi 1M in just over 31 seconds....., and yes they are hot BUT they can take a lot more heat as well, 70c is totally fine for these chips all day long.
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