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That's what I wanted to use the 4th monitor for (monitoring temps, etc.) however I need to purchase an additional single slot cheap gpu for it since nvidia doesn't allow the 4th dvi to be used during nvidia surround.

got any HD or VGA connectors on the card and monitors. Use converters to maybe connect this way?

However you could use that as an excuse for a physx card tongue.gif
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So rubema just take the information me and De-Zant have provided and then decide on your preferences; whether you think you will need, benefit from and can justify the need for more than 60hz; and get the monitors you want
Mmmmm... now i am a bit confuse I'd like to try the 120hz in the same time i dont want to wast lots of money since i think in my case if i want change my 2 sides monitors to 120hz, i should here change the center one also, since i think i cant do surround with 2 side monitors at 120hz and one center monitor at 60hz.. CAN I??

Again you advice will be much much appreciate..
Edited by rubema - 5/11/11 at 4:44am
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Mmmmm... now i am a bit confuse I'd like to try the 120hz in the same time i dont want to wast lots of money since i think in my case if i want change my 2 sides monitors to 120hz, i should here change the center one also, since i think i cant do surround with 2 side monitors at 120hz and one monitor at 60hz.. CAN I??

Again you advice will be much much appreciate..
Want to try 120hz?


See if you could score a CRT on a local auction site. See that it does at least 100hz on 1024x768 if not more. If it doesn't, don't get it.

This is an easy and cheap way of doing it. This isn't a permanent solution by any means. Just a way of trying 120hz.


Also depends on what games you play. It's not worth it for BC2, but for the likes of COD and TF2, it is good.


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Okay that's fine then, I'll hold my hands up and say I didn't have scientific proof that the human eye can only see about 60fps, that was just something I was taught at uni studying games design and that all games designers try to aim for 60fps as it is seen as very smooth and fluid. Especially on consoles, that's why most console games have to be extremely optimised and make graphical sacrifices as the designers are trying to keep a constant 60fps as much as possible for a smooth gaming experience).

The rest of my information provided is true and relevant however.

I'm guessing too some people, as De-Zant proved, 60fps (60hz) just isn't enough. However when I went from my 75hz monitor to my 60hz monitor I didn't notice any slow downs/choppiness, any less enjoyment to my gaming experience or just any difference.

So rubema just take the information me and De-Zant have provided and then decide on your preferences; whether you think you will need, benefit from and can justify the need for more than 60hz; and get the monitors you want
You see, that's partly true. 60FPS is kind of the barrier of a video/game being smooth movement if motion blur is not there (can be lower with motion blur)

However, although 60FPS is smooth, it can still get smoother. In fast paced FPS games, you REALLY notice the 60hz limitation. In something as slow as BC2, maybe not at all even.

60FPS = moderately smooth
120FPS = very smooth


Console games often run at a stable 30FPS. Only faster paced games like COD and such run 60FPS on consoles.


Also, someone studying game design can still be someone who hasn't experienced 120hz, or someone who never played games where it mattered, or someone who favors LCD / IPS monitors too much to admit there being a difference.
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Want to try 120hz?
See if you could score a CRT on a local auction site. See that it does at least 100hz on 1024x768 if not more. If it doesn't, don't get it.
This is an easy and cheap way of doing it. This isn't a permanent solution by any means. Just a way of trying 120hz.
Also depends on what games you play. It's not worth it for BC2, but for the likes of COD and TF2, it is good..
I already tried the 120 on my friend computer and its really nice.. but what i was wondering if i can mix 120hz with 60hz on surround.. ??

I think i cant find CRT nearby..
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I already tried the 120 on my friend computer and its really nice.. but what i was wondering if i can mix 120hz with 60hz on surround.. ??

I think i cant find CRT nearby..
You cannot.
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I decided last night that even with the great cooling of the Gigabyte duel windforces the top card was always about 15-18 degrees (c) hotter than the bottom card and would reach about 85 degrees sometimes during long gaming sessions were the other card would just about hit 70 degrees.

So I decided I would move the bottom card to my third PCI-e slot even though this is only a PCI-e2.0 x4 slot (MY P6t-se has 3 pci-e slots working as x16 x16 x4).

I did some tests last night to see if or how much it effects performance in surround gaming but didn't have time to post my findings and I'm at work now, so I'll update this post later with the figures.

But basically there was about a 10% hit on performance and fps, which in surround gaming and having large resolutions affecting fps drastically, it can be the difference between playable and non-playable gameplay.

I try to make sure frames stay above 30fps at all times as anything below that is even noticeable to me and I'm not that fussy with performance, I noticed during tests and gaming that were it usually hit's 30-31fps during heavy load it now hit's 26-28fps and due to my preferences of not accepting below 30fps I had to lower resolutions to stay constantly above 30fps.

Another thing I came across was that my long time overclock of 860 core @1.050v just kept crashing and wouldn't stay stable until I increased the voltage to 1.072v.

My next concern with this was, will the extra voltage increase the cards temps and render the move of the cards useless. However the temperature only increased by 1 degrees and were the top card used to reach 85 degrees now both cards don't get hotter than 70 degrees.

So for the benefit of reduced temps, moving from an x16 slot to a lower down x4 slot there is also a drop in performance and overclocking stability.

Now my next question is what is more harmful in the long term to a GPU:
- Running at higher temps under load?
or
- running at higher volts under load?

If anyone knows I would really appreciate that answer
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You cannot.
Thats what i want to know

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