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Think this thread needs a bit of a reality check. This whole debate started when someone said 2gb cards were useless for nVidia surround. Clearly that's not true.
Also can I just point out to the people with 4gb cards that no one is doubting that they are better for surround setups. But they just really arnt required unless you have 3 or more of them to max out every setting in a game. Then and only then is the 4gb usefull.
1. There were no 4gb gtx 680's when I got my cards.
2. I didn't have a surround setup when I got my cards.
3. I will run out of gpu grunt before I run out of vram, so having 2x 4gb card wouldn't change anything. I'd still be running minimal MSAA to keep frames good. So I'd be under 2000mb's VRAM usage anyway.
4. I'm not gonna change from 2gb to 4gb cards with in the same series. When the gtx 780 comes out with more VRAM then sure.
Not the streets I travel, sounds like nonsense.

They are useless for surround.

If you aren't playing a game at 60FPS with the highest settings available which includes AA etc then your system can't run the game. It doesn't count if you have to turn down settings and nobody is giving anyone a consolation prize for "but it runs without AA etc". Because with that mentality anything can run anything as long as it loads the game. Which is misleading and how things get lost in translation and ultimately what leads to novices making misinformed purchases and being unhappy with them.

Fact.

Battlefield 3 uses more than 2GB VRAM in 1080P surround and above. With the settings turned down, yes it'll work and it'll work well. But does the game run with it's default ultra settings? No. Ultra includes everything maxed, AA included so no, the game does not run on 2GB surround.

Ultra without AA, without HBAO and without motion blur it ran pretty good on most maps (around 1800-1900MB) with my GTX 690 but some like karkand didn't in heavy action. Just didn't have enough VRAM.

I understand what you guys are saying and you're not wrong but you're seeing it from a different point of view and that's fine. But the truth is that with the highest possible settings the game goes way over 2GB of VRAM. It depends on the map, some get really high but most from what I've seen hover at around 2500-2700MB maxed. Saying anything else is misleading and yes saying they are usless is a big claim but its' true. Who on earth spends thousands on graphics cards and then the same again on monitors to happily turn down settings? I sure don't and if I have to it enrages me.

I was going to take some screen shots on my system but Lol, good old battlelog wont even load properly so I can't launch the game. Lol.

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Hi there, looking into running 3 22" screens and was wondering if you guys could answer a few questions for me.

1) At 3 x 1080p what kind of card would I be looking at to max everything out?

2) VRam...I know it's been argued about before but how much do I need? 2GB? 3? 4? I run A LOT of texture mods on Skyrim and heard that it can use over 2GB but have never looked into it.

3) Does anyone have any recommendation for a triple monitor stand for 3 22" monitors?

4) Are there any particular monitors in specific you would recommend me getting. Keep in mind, my maximum budget is around $150 per monitor.

I appreciate any help you can give.

Thank You,

Bigm

Honestly you want GTX 670 4GB 3-Way SLI to run everything maxed but if you can't afford it then you'll have to compromise for GTX 670 4GB SLI which will still be decent and you'll be getting 60FPS but you'll be using no AA most of the time. The extra card is pretty much for that purpose. However with that budget for monitors I'd be putting such a big investment off and doing it properly and getting three 120hz Samsung monitors. Which seem to be the best.

S23A750D is what I'd recommend.
    
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Just finished downloading BF2 (no BF3 yet until I finish #2 smile.gif).

How does one finish Battlefield 2? It's a multiplayer game.

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If you aren't playing a game at 60FPS with the highest settings available which includes AA etc then your system can't run the game. .

Rofl.
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Gonna try Metro later on. .


you better have a good cpu clock to handle metro 2033 at that res
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Who on earth spends thousands on graphics cards and then the same again on monitors to happy with turning down settings? I certainly wouldn't be...

Those 4gb cards must cost a lot because I certainly didn't spend thousands on gpus. Nor did I spend thousands on my vg278h's Sexparty.
Gotta say thou some of the highlights of my surround system have been playing trine 1 & 2 and borderlands 2 in 3d. Games that don't even go close to the 2gb vram limit on max settings.
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Battlefield 3 uses more than 2GB VRAM in 1080P surround and above. With the settings turned down, yes it'll work and it'll work well. But does the game run with it's default ultra settings? No. Ultra includes everything maxed, AA included so no, the game does not run on 2GB surround.

it's a known fact that bf3 eats vram because it can. if you are doing 5760x1080 2gb is enough RIGHT now... maybe not next year or 2 but right now, yes it's enough and it's been proven in 100 benchmarking websites and by people on ocn/evga forums with their own tests. More than 2gb at 1080 really provides you no more benefit because the cards don't have enough horsepower yet to make more than 2gb effective.

I can see if you got msaa maxed out, which yes could cause it to chug because that eats up the most.... but if there is anything you can sacrifice it's msaa. turn it down or cut it off. this is an advantage of 1440p gaming that I don't even have to use msaa even knowing I got 4gb cards...you just don't see jaggies unless you kill yourself trying to find jaggies.

if you are running surround in 1440p then more 2gb is a must as you are pushing a lot more pixels and you generally start at 2gb taken up in any game, but the cards still don't have the horsepower to run everything perfect and maxed unless you run tri or quad sli.

i really wish graphic card companies would clear up this misconception about vram....so if you got 2gb cards now and want to do surround. don't stress it... you'll want to upgrade cards next gen anyways for more fps, and you can just go ahead and play in surround today! Yes vram is important, but it is still more important for a card to have more raw power than vram.
Edited by Descadent - 12/13/12 at 5:06am
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it's a known fact that bf3 eats vram because it can. if you are doing 5760x1080 2gb is enough RIGHT now... maybe not next year or 2 but right now, yes it's enough and it's been proven in 100 benchmarking websites and by people on ocn/evga forums with their own tests. More than 2gb at 1080 really provides you no more benefit because the cards don't have enough horsepower yet to make more than 2gb effective.
I can see if you got msaa maxed out, which yes could cause it to chug because that eats up the most.... but if there is anything you can sacrifice it's msaa. turn it down or cut it off. this is an advantage of 1440p gaming that I don't even have to use msaa even knowing I got 4gb cards...you just don't see jaggies unless you kill yourself trying to find jaggies.
if you are running surround in 1440p then more 2gb is a must as you are pushing a lot more pixels and you generally start at 2gb taken up in any game, but the cards still don't have the horsepower to run everything perfect and maxed unless you run tri or quad sli.
i really wish graphic card companies would clear up this misconception about vram....so if you got 2gb cards now and want to do surround. don't stress it... you'll want to upgrade cards next gen anyways for more fps, and you can just go ahead and play in surround today! Yes vram is important, but it is still more important for a card to have more raw power than vram.

Totally agree
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^Agree.

BTW what kind of FPS are you getting in BF3 multiplayer Descadent? Highs & lows?
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^Agree.
BTW what kind of FPS are you getting in BF3 multiplayer Descadent? Highs & lows?

it varies depending on what's going on. 40-75 usually with no hbao(ssao on) and no msaa. some maps I can turn the hbao back on, but yet again I really don't even bother doing that. It seems to be never really consistent taken in to how different each map is and how different battles can be each match. So in general it's all over the place with fps lol.
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How does one finish Battlefield 2? It's a multiplayer game.

It does have a single player campaign I believe. If it doesn't (I don't do mp smile.gif), I'll load up BF3 thumb.gif
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you better have a good cpu clock to handle metro 2033 at that res


uhmmmm....quad sli needs a good cpu clock. I got that cover w/ my little quad core wink.gif

btw, I think have finished the game a few times and I have everything maxed out and the gpu(s) do get 100% (well, actually 99%) usage wink.gif
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