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Yeah I have the boxed version, never bought anything but HL2 through steam lol, it's okay I'll go looking through steam now
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Originally Posted by Paradigm Shifter View Post
How do other games perform? Are they far lower FPS than expected too? Perhaps it's just a Crysis issue.

Other than that, after you've done more software testing, if it's still doing badly (you're going to hate me for this) it's time to go back to hardware basics.

Single GTX580, first PCI-E slot, single monitor. How does C2 run?
Single GTX580, second PCI-E slot, single monitor. How does C2 run?
SLI GTX580s, single monitor. How does C2 run?
Then back to Surround mode again...
Was hopping u would not say that But I been thinking that too.

Need to check some other games. But have not had a chance after the fresh install and setup. Will check and let you know.

Ram nvidia inspector and two things I dont understand.
1) The P-State differs (dunno what it means)
2) Current clock values differ. Should they not be the same or am I having a blonde moment.





Did not get chance to run the stress test.

Ran MSI and both cards running at same stock clock speeds. Usage is 97% and memory 2570MB without even playing. Just standing still. Frames at 39

That does not seem right to me

AA is set to application controlled.
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Was hopping u would not say that But I been thinking that too.

Need to check some other games. But have not had a chance after the fresh install and setup. Will check and let you know.

Ram nvidia inspector and two things I dont understand.
1) The P-State differs (dunno what it means)
2) Current clock values differ. Should they not be the same or am I having a blonde moment.

Did not get chance to run the stress test.

Ran MSI and both cards running at same stock clock speeds. Usage is 97% and memory 2570MB without even playing. Just standing still. Frames at 39

That does not seem right to me

AA is set to application controlled.
The 'current clock' values: 51Mhz for desktop (web), 405Mhz for 2D (video), 772Mhz for 3D (games). I'll disable Surround and SLi to fire up Crysis 2 so we can compare fps. brb

EDIT: Ok, here is a screenshot running 1 card @ 1920x1200 w/ settings @ full ULTRA and DX11/Hi-Res Textures:



Edited by _CH_Skyline_ - 7/11/11 at 1:07pm
 
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Was hopping u would not say that But I been thinking that too.

Need to check some other games. But have not had a chance after the fresh install and setup. Will check and let you know.

Ram nvidia inspector and two things I dont understand.
1) The P-State differs (dunno what it means)
2) Current clock values differ. Should they not be the same or am I having a blonde moment.





Did not get chance to run the stress test.

Ran MSI and both cards running at same stock clock speeds. Usage is 97% and memory 2570MB without even playing. Just standing still. Frames at 39

That does not seem right to me

AA is set to application controlled.
Even though youre not doing anything its still rendering. Thus the high usage. Your RAM is fine too. Still some head room. How far do the frames drop when you start to play?
 
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Question for Tri-SLI users: are your GPUs "idling" low power 3D state?

When I was running two GPUs some time ago I'm pretty sure they'd fully downclock to 50 mhz core in Surround mode. But these three 580s are all sitting at 405 mhz in Surround mode.
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Masterm, with VRAM usage that high I'd say your AA is set to max, view the ingame AA settings and see what they are, then possibly reduce them abit, I hope this fixes te problem.
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The P-state and current clocks are linked - the card has different P-states (power states) depending on the load the card detects. The card on 51MHz is in it's idle low power state, I would guess that's the card with a single monitor on it. The card with the 405MHz clocks in it's intermediate power state because it's driving two screens.

Surround, even on the desktop is quite stressful on the GPUs; my primary 460 rarely downclocks to it's 50MHz full idle because it's got two cards on it.

From the fact you're using >2.5GB of VRAM in Crysis, I, too, would suggest that you've got AA enabled somewhere.

I don't usually bother running with AA, unless it's a slow game that I spend a lot of time looking at slow/stationary stuff, as in a FPS game I'm usually too busy shooting/moving to notice too much.
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The P-state and current clocks are linked - the card has different P-states (power states) depending on the load the card detects. The card on 51MHz is in it's idle low power state, I would guess that's the card with a single monitor on it. The card with the 405MHz clocks in it's intermediate power state because it's driving two screens.

Surround, even on the desktop is quite stressful on the GPUs; my primary 460 rarely downclocks to it's 50MHz full idle because it's got two cards on it.

From the fact you're using >2.5GB of VRAM in Crysis, I, too, would suggest that you've got AA enabled somewhere.

I don't usually bother running with AA, unless it's a slow game that I spend a lot of time looking at slow/stationary stuff, as in a FPS game I'm usually too busy shooting/moving to notice too much.
You're misunderstanding me. I previously ran Surround with two video cards, and both of them would usually downclock to ~50 mhz when on the desktop. Now, I am running Surround with three cards, and all of them are stuck in low power 3D mode (~450mhz) in desktop mode. Doesn't make sense because each of them is connected to one monitor only.
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Wasn't actually replying to you specifically matrices, although your 2D clocks @ idle issue seems to put a bit of a hole in what I suggested to masterm... unless it's a tri-SLI bug, which wouldn't be uncommon. The behaviour of my 4870X2 back in the day was a bit erratic as well when it came to power saving modes. Sometimes it would, sometimes it wouldn't.

I've never had the cash to try out tri- or quad-SLI (or CF) so can't comment further on that beyond what I've gleaned from other sources (first party or otherwise)...

Having said that, given the GPU acceleration of the Windows desktop/Firefox/Flash etc, it suggests that you're running something which prevents the cards from clocking down. I know that even on a single-screen system, I open Firefox (whether it's on a page with Flash animations or not) and my GPUs kick up to 2D clocks and start pumping out heat... also happens with Foobar; seems to be visualisation related.
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You're misunderstanding me. I previously ran Surround with two video cards, and both of them would usually downclock to ~50 mhz when on the desktop. Now, I am running Surround with three cards, and all of them are stuck in low power 3D mode (~450mhz) in desktop mode. Doesn't make sense because each of them is connected to one monitor only.
My 570's run @ ~50mhz when not gaming most of the time. However I did just notice (because I've never paid attention) that loading a new web page caused them the jump to full power for a second then down clock to low power mode (405mhz). Maybe you just never noticed your two cards going up and down because you weren't concerned about it?
 
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