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Hi All,

Well the other day I built myself a new computer and everything is running stable and I was ready to start overclocking when I Discovered a problem. The problem being that I have abnormally high CPU temps at Idle on my stock bios settings considering I’m using a Corsair H50 CPU Cooler. After reading around and talking to a few other people I have came to the conclusion I must have applied either too much or not enough thermal paste or applied it incorrectly when I installed the CPU.

After doing a bit of research I have worked out there’s only 3 different ways to install thermal paste. Which leads me to the problem of which installation technique is the best for Intel i7 930 CPUs?

THE DOT METHOD
you put a pea sized drop of thermal paste in the centre of the CPU and then install the Heat sink.

THE LINE METHOD
You put a thin line of thermal paste across the centre of the CPU and then install the Heat sink

THE DOT/SPREAD METHOD
You put a pea sized drop of thermal paste in the centre of the CPU and then use either your finger in a glove or business card to spread the thermal paste out evening across the top of the CPU and then install the Heat sink

Secondly which Thermal paste does everyone think does the best job? I’m currently using Arctic Silver 5

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DVD: Asus DRW-22B2ST
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler
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the way i did it, which worked great for me, just grab a plastic bag from like walmart or something and put a lil bit in the center of the cpu, rub it around with your finger through the bag, done ^.^
post #3 of 8
Honestly the best way is to try all of them and see for yourself. As each heatsink does different compared to other ones. So that way you will know which works for you.

I'm still using the good old trusty MX-2 myself. May take a little longer but it will work out best for you in the end. Good luck and have fun.
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I used the dot method myself. Worked well, it will spread itself out.
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Originally Posted by bobazappala View Post
Hi All,

Well the other day I built myself a new computer and everything is running stable and I was ready to start overclocking when I Discovered a problem. The problem being that I have abnormally high CPU temps at Idle on my stock bios settings considering I’m using a Corsair H50 CPU Cooler. After reading around and talking to a few other people I have came to the conclusion I must have applied either too much or not enough thermal paste or applied it incorrectly when I installed the CPU.

After doing a bit of research I have worked out there’s only 3 different ways to install thermal paste. Which leads me to the problem of which installation technique is the best for Intel i7 930 CPUs?

THE DOT METHOD
you put a pea sized drop of thermal paste in the centre of the CPU and then install the Heat sink.

THE LINE METHOD
You put a thin line of thermal paste across the centre of the CPU and then install the Heat sink

THE DOT/SPREAD METHOD
You put a pea sized drop of thermal paste in the centre of the CPU and then use either your finger in a glove or business card to spread the thermal paste out evening across the top of the CPU and then install the Heat sink

Secondly which Thermal paste does everyone think does the best job? I’m currently using Arctic Silver 5

Here's a list of my current PC Specs aswell if need be

Case: Cooler Master HAF X (RC-942-KKN1)
PSU: Enermax Revolution 85+ (1250watt)
CPU: Intel i7 930 (2.8Ghz D0 Stepping)
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD9
RAM: Corsair Dominator GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 (2GB x 3, PC16000, 2000MHz, 8-8-8-24 @ 1.65v)
RAM Cooler: Corsair Dominator GT Fan
HDDs: 2 x Western Digital 1TB Black drives in RAID 0 (WD1001FALS)
GPU: Asus ATi HD 5870
DVD: Asus DRW-22B2ST
CPU Cooler: Corsair Hydro Series H50 CPU Cooler


If your having high temps at idle I suggest you LAP the baseplate with 1200 Grit Wet/Dry sandpaper and reapply fresh TIM.
I know TIM didn't do it for mine till I Lapped the baseplate.
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Why not just use the thermal paste preapplied to the H50. It is really good shin- etsu and it's already spread on.

Also, what exactly are your idle temps? And what are your ambients? Load temps in prime?
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I think which the method is not as important as the skill of the person who does the application. The main key is to avoid tiny tiny air bubbles being trapped within the thermal paste when the paste is being spread out by a credit card/finger or is pressed down by the heatsink. (see pic)

And then, criss-cross tightening of the 4 screws is also a related and important factor. Not only the order (ie 1-3-2-4) is important, one must not tighten a screw too much before moving on to the next in line. Approaching the final few turns, I suggest tighten each screw ½ turn, in order.
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Originally Posted by coreyscx View Post
the way i did it, which worked great for me, just grab a plastic bag from like walmart or something and put a lil bit in the center of the cpu, rub it around with your finger through the bag, done ^.^
I think I'm going to try this application style first and if it doesn't work move on to the others.

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Originally Posted by BinaryBummer View Post
If your having high temps at idle I suggest you LAP the baseplate with 1200 Grit Wet/Dry sandpaper and reapply fresh TIM.
I know TIM didn't do it for mine till I Lapped the baseplate.
Hmmm at the moment I'm leaving lapping the CPU as a last resort but if all else fails... out comes the sand paper.

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Originally Posted by Billy O View Post
Why not just use the thermal paste preapplied to the H50. It is really good shin- etsu and it's already spread on.

Also, what exactly are your idle temps? And what are your ambients? Load temps in prime?
The H50 Cooler was already preivously installed on my Q9650 CPU so the thermal paste had to be reapplied.

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Originally Posted by windfire View Post
I think which the method is not as important as the skill of the person who does the application. The main key is to avoid tiny tiny air bubbles being trapped within the thermal paste when the paste is being spread out by a credit card/finger or is pressed down by the heatsink. (see pic)

And then, criss-cross tightening of the 4 screws is also a related and important factor. Not only the order (ie 1-3-2-4) is important, one must not tighten a screw too much before moving on to the next in line. Approaching the final few turns, I suggest tighten each screw ½ turn, in order.
Interesting info I knew that tiny air bubbles could cause problems. I think when I applied the thermal paste in this installation this is probably the main problem. Either that or used too much thermal paste.

One thing I know I did do properly was tightening the screws in the right order. I normally use this as a general rule of thumb when tightening anything to anything unless told otherwise.
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