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Found the funniest clip of Idra, ever.


And after that moment of embarassment, he BMed 300 terrans to make up for the bruised ego.
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Originally Posted by thiru View Post
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2...eparate-ladder

What. The. ****.

GG Activision.

That's the most retarded thing you could do. Freaking retarded.
Sigh, that's just the Activision part of Activision Blizzard kicking in.

Three different ladders? That's just stupid.

If they would only release ONE expansion.. or at least release them far from each other (WOL was released in 7/10), then it'd be tolerable.

But they expect us to shell out another $120 just to be able to play with the primary community? All of the pros and hardcore players will obviously get the latest expansion.

The community will be fractured really badly and WOL will just be a bunch of casual gamers.
Edited by Idra - 2/17/11 at 7:56pm
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Originally Posted by thiru View Post
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft2...eparate-ladder

What. The. ****.

GG Activision.

That's the most retarded thing you could do. Freaking retarded.
Always been like this. No surprise.


SC was different than BW, WCIII expos, ect. Has nothing to Activision.
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Always been like this. No surprise.


SC was different than BW, WCIII expos, ect. Has nothing to do with Activision.
This.

And if you actually read the article listed, he said they'll be releasing these new maps over the coming weeks. Doesn't quite sound like he's going "HotS ONLY LOLOLOLOLROFLYOUSUCK" is it? Give them a break.
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Always been like this. No surprise.


SC was different than BW, WCIII expos, ect. Has nothing to Activision.
There are lots of differences.

BW was out for SC1 before the year was over, and they balanced that. Nobody plays SC1 so it doesn't matter. There wasn't much of a competitive scene at the time so it didn't matter.

There are 2 expansions planned. That's 3 ladders. That's 3 games to balance because there are up to 2 years between each game. They can't even balance 1 game. They only have 2 guys working on balance FFS. What if one ladder is easier for one race? what if a team or organization like GSL stays on 1 ladder?

They don't even know what they're going to do with the MP, admitting that adding 1 unit per race per expansion is stupid, but they're already announcing that the ladders will be separate? what the hell is the point of a different ladder if there's no difference then?

Do I even need to talk about the separation of the community? This isn't 1998, I bet you that each expansion will cost at least $50. That's $160 if you want to keep up with the game, that's insane.

@admiral thrawn: the new maps have nothing to do with this. Those maps were already in the PTR.
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There are lots of differences.

BW was out for SC1 before the year was over, and they balanced that. Nobody plays SC1 so it doesn't matter. There wasn't much of a competitive scene at the time so it didn't matter.

There are 2 expansions planned. That's 3 ladders. That's 3 games to balance because there are up to 2 years between each game. They can't even balance 1 game. They only have 2 guys working on balance FFS. What if one ladder is easier for one race? what if a team or organization like GSL stays on 1 ladder?

They don't even know what they're going to do with the MP, admitting that adding 1 unit per race per expansion is stupid, but they're already announcing that the ladders will be separate? what the hell is the point of a different ladder if there's no difference then?

Do I even need to talk about the separation of the community? This isn't 1998, I bet you that each expansion will cost at least $50. That's $160 if you want to keep up with the game, that's insane.

@admiral thrawn: the new maps have nothing to do with this. Those maps were already in the PTR.
This. Its an unnecessary implementation that will only serve their purpose of forcing more people to buy the new expansions.

Many people bought this game, thinking that it was the only game they needed for the full multiplayer experience.
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They need to release the new campaigns in a more DLC-style rather than standalone expansions that basically rebuild the game and community from the ground up.

If they released two new separate campaigns at $30- HotS and the protoss campaign- and left online content alone (just adding maps as they build/balance them) they would see a lot of profit while letting people stay where they are on ladder and not feel screwed over when they have to re-rank.

I think the reason they are going to do this is to force you to buy the expansions. Starcraft 2 has a fairly huge regular playerbase that requires servers and their minions that maintain those servers. By forcing you to buy the expansions to keep playing with the main group of people they offset those costs.

Just be glad there isn't a Battle.net "subscription fee". These expansions are basically it.
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Originally Posted by KittensMewMew View Post
They need to release the new campaigns in a more DLC-style rather than standalone expansions that basically rebuild the game and community from the ground up.

If they released two new separate campaigns at $30- HotS and the protoss campaign- and left online content alone (just adding maps as they build/balance them) they would see a lot of profit while letting people stay where they are on ladder and not feel screwed over when they have to re-rank.

I think the reason they are going to do this is to force you to buy the expansions. Starcraft 2 has a fairly huge regular playerbase that requires servers and their minions that maintain those servers. By forcing you to buy the expansions to keep playing with the main group of people they offset those costs.

Just be glad there isn't a Battle.net "subscription fee". These expansions are basically it.
Battle.net subscription fee? Have you noticed that there are ads on Starcraft 2?

Plus, the server hosting cost argument is so juvenile. What "minions"? They're not using manpower to power the servers by having people peddle on stationary bikes.

Subscription fees are not necessary at all and would just be greedy of them.

Guild Wars is an MMORPG that has subscription fees. Yet, their servers are almost always up and running great. From time to time, they just come out with really cheap expansions (much less than the full $60 that SC2 expansions will cost).

Heroes of Newerth only costs one payment of $30 (or less if you bough it during the sale). No subscription fees or any BS expansions.

Every Total War game.

---

And if they really want to charge a subscription fee, then give us the option to play LAN. Otherwise, there will be lawsuits. Nowhere did it say, when we bought the game, that a subscription was needed to play multiplayer.
Edited by Idra - 2/17/11 at 8:43pm
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I think you guys are just nitpicking. Anyone who cares about SCII will get the expansion and get their money's worth. Anyone casual enough to not get HoTS will not give a **** if Blizzard doesn't care about SCII original ladder because they will never notice to begin with.

Like who isn't going to get LOD for Diablo II? No one I care about.
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Originally Posted by KittensMewMew View Post
They need to release the new campaigns in a more DLC-style rather than standalone expansions that basically rebuild the game and community from the ground up.

If they released two new separate campaigns at $30- HotS and the protoss campaign- and left online content alone (just adding maps as they build/balance them) they would see a lot of profit while letting people stay where they are on ladder and not feel screwed over when they have to re-rank.

I think the reason they are going to do this is to force you to buy the expansions. Starcraft 2 has a fairly huge regular playerbase that requires servers and their minions that maintain those servers. By forcing you to buy the expansions to keep playing with the main group of people they offset those costs.

Just be glad there isn't a Battle.net "subscription fee". These expansions are basically it.
I'd almost be more concerned with a spread out ladder and unbalanced races then $5 a month or something.
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