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I've just discovered why I can't find it.

Whatever prats run the official tourines went "OMG COPYRIGHT WE LOSING A BILLION DOLLARS FOR EVERYONE WHO WATCHES THE REPLAY ONLINE BWAAAAA BOOHOO HOO CRY WAAAH" and had everyone take it down.

Stuck-up cry-baby ponces.
Probably, let me see if I can find you a link

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It doesn't . Unless you're MKP sometimes.

http://starcraftcentral.net/forum/index.php?topic=512.0

I won the second StarcraftCentral tournament again. still no prize, but fun.
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T so ******* mother******* broken I'm so pissed everytime I play ******* T, no matter WHAT I cannot beat them, no matter how badly I outplay them they just bring a little group of MMM and poof there goes Splings and Blings (2/1), as well as mutas. My army values in the graph is always WAY higher than theirs yet it drops to ******* 0 after the fight. Patch pls
Sorry but nope, slings/banes ALWAYS take out MMM especially if its a little group. I've used it in over 80 games, it always done the job albeit leaving you with less of an army due to the banes suiciding but it work, slings/blings/mutas is one of the best combos we have and that works as well especially if you constantly harass their bases and stop their production
    
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It doesn't . Unless you're MKP sometimes.




http://starcraftcentral.net/forum/index.php?topic=512.0

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Was is it a tournament or a terranament? Any of the other races have success?
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Terran is not OP. I think even the stim nerf is aimed mainly at lower leagues where 3 rax still owns. The only thing terran has that can be considered OP atm are blue flame hellions or maybe hellions in general. They should make them slower/more expansive or something as even sacrificing them into your mineral line is usually a good trade off for terran against both P and Z.
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masters in everything
3v3, 4v4 is so frustrating when playing with random people where everyone just blames each other.
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masters in everything
3v3, 4v4 is so frustrating when playing with random people where everyone just blames each other.
nice, why not get a good 3vs3 and 4vs4 together? You'll have to deal with less random people that way

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Was is it a tournament or a terranament? Any of the other races have success?
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Terran is not OP. I think even the stim nerf is aimed mainly at lower leagues where 3 rax still owns. The only thing terran has that can be considered OP atm are blue flame hellions or maybe hellions in general. They should make them slower/more expansive or something as even sacrificing them into your mineral line is usually a good trade off for terran against both P and Z.
Says the protoss player who's colossi are OP and keep on roasting my poor slings/roaches in my PvsZ games Yes, I know that you're playing some games as Z as well.
    
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nice, why not get a good 3vs3 and 4vs4 together? You'll have to deal with less random people that way


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Says the protoss player who's colossi are OP and keep on roasting my poor slings/roaches in my PvsZ games Yes, I know that you're playing some games as Z as well.
So ******* stupid I ******* hate ******* Terran nothing ******* works against them

I scout MMM so I go mass splings and banes, with 2/1 upgrades, and next thing I know he's attacking with Blue flame helions which roast my entire ******* ling army and his marines just mow down my mutas. My last 2 times I've been matched against a T in ladder I've just left once it's started. There's no way it can be won, ******* complete bull**** I've tried everything. And the worst part is at the end of the game, the score screen, I completely rape them in every section except units just cause 1 of their units = ******* 10 of mine.
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The current balance scheme isn't really about who's OP. It's about who has more advantages in the given game time and matchup. Maps play a huge factor as well. Terran just have more options at any given time in each matchup.

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So ******* stupid I ******* hate ******* Terran nothing ******* works against them

I scout MMM so I go mass splings and banes, with 2/1 upgrades, and next thing I know he's attacking with Blue flame helions which roast my entire ******* ling army and his marines just mow down my mutas. My last 2 times I've been matched against a T in ladder I've just left once it's started. There's no way it can be won, ******* complete bull**** I've tried everything. And the worst part is at the end of the game, the score screen, I completely rape them in every section except units just cause 1 of their units = ******* 10 of mine.
It seems like it can be a psychological issue in your case. Just learn the matchup.

Download sc2allreplay and search for ZvT's where zerg wins. Watch a number of replays from Zerg's perspective specifically paying attention to timings, scouting information and their reactions with production tab open.

Also watch these if you have time:

http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/4612303/
http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/4654943/
http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/4663778/
http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/4663284/
http://mrbitter.blip.tv/file/4777942/
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So ******* stupid I ******* hate ******* Terran nothing ******* works against them

I scout MMM so I go mass splings and banes, with 2/1 upgrades, and next thing I know he's attacking with Blue flame helions which roast my entire ******* ling army and his marines just mow down my mutas. My last 2 times I've been matched against a T in ladder I've just left once it's started. There's no way it can be won, ******* complete bull**** I've tried everything. And the worst part is at the end of the game, the score screen, I completely rape them in every section except units just cause 1 of their units = ******* 10 of mine.
Tip: Don't run your slings into his army when he has hellions. I'm sure you already know this but I thought I'll remind you Try burrowing some banes then exploding when his MMM walks over. Get some roaches to try and get some shots on the hellions. Since I haven't seen these games, I can't comment on what the issue could be. Yes, hellions+MMM is pretty strong, but, if you can get rid of the hellions, then MMM is easy picking with slings+blings. Try bane drop using OLs on MMM. Experiment around, get some infestors, FG his hellions then run your slings+blings into his MMM. Pick off the hellions with mutas first before he engages, etc.... There are a lot of different strat that are possible, main idea is to capitalize on their mistakes and keep the pressure before he starts massing. BTW, quitting against T isn't the way to play, you lost points and you lose out on experience regardless of how frustrating you might find it I have some ZvsT that are fun to watch with some MMM action(not much hellions I'm afraid), watch those(make sure they are the latest), maybe I did something that might help you
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Terran is not OP. I think even the stim nerf is aimed mainly at lower leagues where 3 rax still owns. The only thing terran has that can be considered OP atm are blue flame hellions or maybe hellions in general. They should make them slower/more expansive or something as even sacrificing them into your mineral line is usually a good trade off for terran against both P and Z.
The general problem is that terran has early units (like hellion) that can deliver devastating and even game-ending attacks and they're so cheap that terran can just throw them away. Terran can drop brooframes and stimmed marine/maruader in my base and if I'm not ready for it I probably lose the game because of it. Or, I could slaughter the whole terran attack force, and terran just yawns and remakes it. As a zerg, if I attempt a game-winning attack and it fails miserably I get punished severely for it. Not so for terran.
Edited by Lucas Lamer - 2/28/11 at 11:26am
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