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nice, haven't been following MLG, too busy
    
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nice, haven't been following MLG, too busy
Don't worry the stream has been nothing short of a disaster.
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Don't worry the stream has been nothing short of a disaster.
I guess that's good to know

Just had a PvsP on ST, took the game. While I think colossi are pretty powerful against T/Z, I find in PvsP, they aren't that great.
Replay: http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/1...oss-gutterhulk
Gotten better at actually expanding now, just need to work on making more workers Interesting game for one reason, can anyone spot the similarities?

Edit: I should probably mention that I actually wanted to do a double attack, but, couldn't wait. It should be obvious at which point I would've wanted to do this
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I dont know how to not rush, whenever the game lasts more than 15 minutes i lose. I cant decide what troops or vehicles to build and i dont use hotkeys so my micro sucks. How do i make hotkeys easier? The numkeys dont work i think and i dont like to use the numbers ontop. btw, whenever i enter general chat in the game lobby menu i see my real name instead of my nick, does it appear like that to everyone else? or just me?
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I dont know how to not rush, whenever the game lasts more than 15 minutes i lose. I cant decide what troops or vehicles to build and i dont use hotkeys so my micro sucks. How do i make hotkeys easier? The numkeys dont work i think and i dont like to use the numbers ontop. btw, whenever i enter general chat in the game lobby menu i see my real name instead of my nick, does it appear like that to everyone else? or just me?
I'm like that when it comes to rushing! If my rush fails, there is no way I could win
Wish I have more time to train but with college and my (current) lousy connection it's nearly impossible >_>
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I dont know how to not rush, whenever the game lasts more than 15 minutes i lose. I cant decide what troops or vehicles to build and i dont use hotkeys so my micro sucks. How do i make hotkeys easier? The numkeys dont work i think and i dont like to use the numbers ontop. btw, whenever i enter general chat in the game lobby menu i see my real name instead of my nick, does it appear like that to everyone else? or just me?
It appears like that only to you What do you mean by rush? You mean early timing push? Always have a plan in mind depending on your race. If you are P against T, you might want to go for colossi, so, you can start with 2-3 gates, get cc and get WG tech then move from there. Depending on your opponent, maybe you want to expand since 2 bases are much better to have for colossi due to gas constraints and you can expand as you do some harass.
Basically, adapt to your opponent's build and work on your macro. Get in the habit of using those control groups(numbers at top). It's pretty easy, you just press 1->e(to make probe), s(SCV), s>d(make drone) or z(zergling), etc.... If you get used to doing that, you'll be able to make units without having to go back to your base. What race do you play? Would make it easier to take about certain strats, etc...

BTW, interesting that you guys mention this. I'm pretty passive, so, I wait for my opponent to attack unless I'm confident that my attack will make some good damage and get me ahead economically
    
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I dont know how to not rush, whenever the game lasts more than 15 minutes i lose. I cant decide what troops or vehicles to build and i dont use hotkeys so my micro sucks. How do i make hotkeys easier? The numkeys dont work i think and i dont like to use the numbers ontop. btw, whenever i enter general chat in the game lobby menu i see my real name instead of my nick, does it appear like that to everyone else? or just me?
When you rush, you generally are going a build that doesn't have a next step, a 3rax can't have marines and marauders constantly made while you take an expansion, for example. So your problem may just be that your rush strategy doesn't leave you any options once it fails.

For example, look at the 6-pool, the staple of rushing. You HAVE to cut drones in order for it to work. So if it fails, you don't have many options, because your opponent will be able to respond, and you don't have a queen, you don't have an overlord for more than 10 supply of stuff, and you don't have many drones.

When you lose in a mirror match (TvT, ZvZ, PvP) after you rush, watch the replay. Your opponent should be able to JUST hold off your attack, and then he'll do something like expand, or start making tech units like colossi, banshees or mutas, and you'll be unable to support your rush build.

4-gate doesn't really have an exit plan, neither does the 3rax, neither does the baneling bust. If you can win every time before 10 minutes with any of those strategies, awesome. But the 4-gate runs out of steam after 2 cycles of warp-ins. The 3rax lets you make marines and marauders and SCVs and supply and nothing else. The baneling bust usually leads into mutas, but there is a weird 5 minute hole where all you have is queens, banelings and speedlings while you 1.take an expo 2.upgrade to Lair 3.build a spire etc because you can't afford anything else really.

My suggestion is rather than going for early game-ending aggression, poke at him with units that are cheap. The 2rax bunker rush gets complained about because it is essentially free, and has no economic downside- you were going to be building marines anyways, and bunkers can be salvaged, why not use that to your advantage? Your APM doesn't have to be super high to load and unload marines. Or take an early expand and defend and see how it feels.

As for hotkeys, force yourself to use them. When you go to click on a unit in a production building to start building it, instead mouse over it, look at the letter, and press that letter. You'll be slower at first, but faster in the long term. Using the number keys up top feels weird, but rather than starting from 1, use 1,2,3 for troops 4 for your base and 5,6,7 for all rax (gates), all factory(robo), and all starports(stargates?) respectively.
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Just in case someone's trying to watch MLG, there's an alternative, working stream here:

http://support.akamai.com/flash/inde...reamsq_3@49981
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If the mlg stream is lagging Heres a Jtv stream that has a little lower bitrate:
http://www.justin.tv/waderadegs#/w/1039955552
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