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Drops vs P is op as heck. On maps like xel or typhon peaks, drop in main, attack natural before P gets colosus and after stim. It's GG from there. Even after colosus comes out, Protoss has to stick in a ball, but m/m in small/medium numbers does a ton of damage catching protoss out of position. Even when p comes to attack, medivac out of there and do again in 30 seconds. Terran gets further ahead on two or more base. GG 75% of the time from there.
    
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Drops are OK vs Protoss, but I think at high level play you just get some extra observers and becomes easy to shut down. Look at Kiwi vs Select to see what I mean. Drops seem strong early, but late game is all Protoss... 16 warp gates ... drops aint doing ****.

I also love DT warp ins, forcing a scan EVERY drop is quite good. People also leave a templar behind for feedback and storm.
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Once you see MC get that sentry on xel naga, you knew it was GG. Ra's late pylon only exasperated the problem.

The reason why drops are OP vs protoss in most cases is the OPness of marine/marauders in low unit counts vs protoss. Protoss units are only effective in a ball, if you spread them thin, like many pros I've seen has done in the GSL, you significantly reduced the effectiveness of their unit power.
    
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Yeah but that timing is very short on these new macro maps, and it takes a very long time to get there.
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Multi drops is where it's at
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I've been trying drops but idk if they've even been helping that much.
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Multi drops is where it's at
This is correct, don't just do one. Make a drop in his main then as soon as he moves there, drop another in one of his exps, preferably the farthest. If you can take out the workers or the cc, the damage to his eco is big because he'll have to remake them/rebuild it and that takes time. Hopefully, you'll still be massing for a strong timing push later on. I do agree with the observers though, I've started making several and placing them around the map. They work much better than OLs(for Z) because they are transparent and they don't cost an arm and a leg either to remake if they are taken out
    
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I had a bad read in a TvT today and lost when I was super far ahead. Ugh.

Got a 4 blue flame hellion drop in, killed 6-8 workers, and scouted the viking-marine-tank push about to come. I had 2 banshees, a few marines and 8 hellions, so I ruined his first push, pushed him back to his main and locked down any expo attempts and setup my expo. Looking at the replay I had 40 SCVs and an expo to his 26 and no expo at that point.

Then I forgot what I was doing and built more banshees rather than vikings and lost the air battle and then the ground. Stupid me.
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I had a bad read in a TvT today and lost when I was super far ahead. Ugh.

Got a 4 blue flame hellion drop in, killed 6-8 workers, and scouted the viking-marine-tank push about to come. I had 2 banshees, a few marines and 8 hellions, so I ruined his first push, pushed him back to his main and locked down any expo attempts and setup my expo. Looking at the replay I had 40 SCVs and an expo to his 26 and no expo at that point.

Then I forgot what I was doing and built more banshees rather than vikings and lost the air battle and then the ground. Stupid me.
It happens

Interesting thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=203966

EDIT: Just took another PvsT game on XC. Would upload the replay but too much work and not many watch it either way, so, I'll just give a little summary
The guy contained me to my exp then built a bunker outside it with some MMM and 3-5 tanks, 3 of which were in siege mode. Then he kept shelling my base from afar using the medivac for vision and dropping then retreating. It was pretty annoying but I could tell he wanted to draw me out, so, I was pretty safe.
I just kept on upgrading, making more units, etc.... then once I felt I had enough I just broke right through. Felt sorry for him because he didn't stand a chance especially considering his tanks+marauders were the main backbone with maybe 5-10 marines at max. Lucky for him, I didn't have blink at the time otherwise he would've lost his 2 medivacs. Then I just took out his exp, tanks in his main using my immortals and kinda baited him out to finish the game. Funny enough, the 2 remaining medivacs that he had, he decided to make a drop in my base with them. Then he got distracted so the 5 stalkers that I wrapped in with my cannon made short work of them before he realized what was happening XD
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