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You don't even micro what do you know? I'd hardly call any TvZ you've done real TvZ. What are you basing this off of? TvT is no where near TvZ micro intensive. You haven't played real TvZ yet, and when you do you'll be agreeing with me.

You don't even target marines with your banes.
Getting a little riled up, aren't we? Basing that on what? The couple of replays I posted from over 250+ games I've played Any TvsZs I've done are at my level and doesn't mean its any different because you are facing opponents at your level in your case. Either way, my Zerg opponents seem to know how to macro(exps, upgrades, etc...) based on the replays I've watched from my games, so I can't say much for how "badly" they play.
Yes, I used to just a click banes because if I knew I had more than enough, I could careless if I lost a few more because I usually had some stockpiled resources. I didn't micro them, because I didn't feel the need, given I never go mass banes against Ts, I usually just get enough of them because I think too much banes is a little over the top. Either way, once I changed to random, I've tried focusing on microing more for all races.
What's real TvsZ? Last I checked, it's when I'm playing Terran, most opponent Zerg and we are duking it out I'm guessing you meant at a higher level, doubt I'll be going pro so I won't be having a real TvsZ either way XD

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In TvZ, if you move out in a ball, you'll lose your entire army to sling/bling. If you spread out too much, you're really slow and will lose your entire army to muta harass. TvZ is constant readjustment of tanks and respreading of marines, which is very APM intensive. Comparatively, TvT tanks/marine/viking involves winning the air battle for sight so you can win the ground, which means having more vikings and moving them in and out. TvT is t/m/v mirror is more of a macro game and making the right amount of units. TvT feels less micro oriented and more unit distribution balanced.
Same thing can happen if you walk in an opponent's seige tank line or cross paths with colossi. What about hts with storm? I think ht's are much worse than blings because of how powerful storm is and the fact that it affects all units equally(baring armor, etc...). All I was trying to say was that I think mirror matchups can sometimes be as intensive if not more so than TvsZ due to having similar units but trying to get some edge on your opponent
    
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Storm isn't even close to banelings, and when storm is out you generally have many options to deal with templar.
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Getting a little riled up, aren't we? Basing that on what? The couple of replays I posted from over 250+ games I've played Any TvsZs I've done are at my level and doesn't mean its any different because you are facing opponents at your level in your case. Either way, my Zerg opponents seem to know how to macro(exps, upgrades, etc...) based on the replays I've watched from my games, so I can't say much for how "badly" they play.
Yes, I used to just a click banes because if I knew I had more than enough, I could careless if I lost a few more because I usually had some stockpiled resources. I didn't micro them, because I didn't feel the need, given I never go mass banes against Ts, I usually just get enough of them because I think too much banes is a little over the top. Either way, once I changed to random, I've tried focusing on microing more for all races.
What's real TvsZ? Last I checked, it's when I'm playing Terran, most opponent Zerg and we are duking it out I'm guessing you meant at a higher level, doubt I'll be going pro so I won't be having a real TvsZ either way XD


Same thing can happen if you walk in an opponent's seige tank line or cross paths with colossi. What about hts with storm? I think ht's are much worse than blings because of how powerful storm is and the fact that it affects all units equally(baring armor, etc...). All I was trying to say was that I think mirror matchups can sometimes be as intensive if not more so than TvsZ due to having similar units but trying to get some edge on your opponent
it's not hard to not walk into an opponent's siege line. u hold. 1 button. crossing paths with colossus is just having the vikings right click on colossi while the rest of your army kites. a few more buttons. hts are really easy. 1 click, run back, let medivac heal you up, if u did it right u shouldn't have lost more than a couple rines.
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Hold Position ftw.
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Storm isn't even close to banelings, and when storm is out you generally have many options to deal with templar.
The main idea was it an AOE effect much greater than banes which rips apart marines pretty fast. Was giving other examples of units that are hard to go up against

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Hold Position ftw.
As for this, it is now, but, wasn't when you can use zlings to push a zealot aside Don't forget what'll happen if you decide to hold your zealots for example and then your opponent decides to engage
    
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I still maintain that below master's league, all you need to do to win is have good macro/timing. Even TvZ. (I was a ~2700 Master's before the reset)
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yays i won my season 2 placement match now to get out of silver...
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Sorry, high level Zerg is the hardest race to micro with. Hands down.
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Sorry, high level Zerg is the hardest race to micro with. Hands down.
no not rly
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no not rly
ya rly
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