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Ghosts aren't really used too much against Z because Terran has to go tanks in ZvT, while in TvP Terran's rarely go tanks unless they are doing a mech build. The benefit is TvP is much greater when you can render FF/Guardian shield/storms useless and cut the armies life in half..lmao. The gas cost isn't worth it for a few infestors in TvZ imo.
Actually the weird thing about Terran is that in TvZ money is the issue more than gas when you are on 3+ bases. It's the marines that need replacing, and generally if you're good enough you can keep your siege tanks alive. I think mixing in a few ghosts is not a bad idea at all really late game. In fact I would love to see the ghost be 125/125 now that EMP is not quite as good, because then we may see them more. It's kind of crazy that a ghost costs MORE than a tank. I would love to see Amulet brought back if that happens, but you spawn with 70 energy in stead of 75.

All I am saying is the ghost especially now should be a little better value especially in TvZ, and changing snipe would at least give them more use other than the EMP machine. I joke about ghosts with others, saying I should just start calling them EMP's. Did you build your EMP academy yet? I just hate seeing them be such a rip off outside of TvP.
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Idra was first in ladder, currently 3rd, and easily considered to be in the top 5 skill wise in NA imo. But enough of that.

If you believe the game in unbalanced so much your just hurting yourself more. If you truly believe Z is OP then your starting games with a mindset that you can't win if your opponent is as good as you. There are tons of options for T to open against Z, and you don't always have to necessarily FE to have a chance. In most games where I see Terran dominate Z it is with good tank placement, and more importantly excellent marine micro.


There will never be "team" games in GSL because the "pros" of team games only cheese. Cheese always wins against any standard play in 2v2s for example.

Anyone watch GSL from last night? oGsNada vs oGsZenio? ZvT; excellent game, highly recommended.
I watched the box vs nada and then fell asleep during nada vs zenio
    
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wow i'm so mad... I finally beat Starjeweled insane after a zillion attempts and the achievement didn't unlock...

*** blizzard?

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my ******* phone broke!!
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I can send you some replays of mid level Master Terrans (600-700) beating Grand Master Zergs all day .

Doom I don't think I told you..Jake beat Idra a day or 2 ago on ladder. It was epic .
Pretty cool, from watching Idra's stream a couple of days back, he makes GM look pretty easy. I watched him play against a terran which he easily won, so, it must've been difficult for Jake to take the game

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Cool I've beat people in the top 200 occasionally too, doesn't mean much. All I know is Z is easier to play against T than vise a versa. I'm pretty confident my barely played Zerg could easily beat my T right now. I know it has a lot to do with my skill set, but macro and playing what is needed to kill T, is much easier than what is needed for T to kill Z ( much less thinking too ). Even in theory the match is more complicated with all the work Terran needs to do.

I've always said Terran is probably better than Zerg if both players play damn near perfect, but unless you are at that level its easily Zerg favored @ equal skills. Blizzard has made it clear the game is not balanced at the pro level skill, because otherwise reaper speed would still be tech lab on barracks tech only, so all I'm asking is for the match to be even in skill @ all levels of play, including mid masters.
Once you get Zerg's mechanics down, the race isn't hard to play. It just requires a lot of stuff to be done(creep spread, spawn larvae, management of units, etc....).

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wow i'm so mad... I finally beat Starjeweled insane after a zillion attempts and the achievement didn't unlock...

*** blizzard?

That's pretty sad :/

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Actually the weird thing about Terran is that in TvZ money is the issue more than gas when you are on 3+ bases. It's the marines that need replacing, and generally if you're good enough you can keep your siege tanks alive. I think mixing in a few ghosts is not a bad idea at all really late game. In fact I would love to see the ghost be 125/125 now that EMP is not quite as good, because then we may see them more. It's kind of crazy that a ghost costs MORE than a tank. I would love to see Amulet brought back if that happens, but you spawn with 70 energy in stead of 75.

All I am saying is the ghost especially now should be a little better value especially in TvZ, and changing snipe would at least give them more use other than the EMP machine. I joke about ghosts with others, saying I should just start calling them EMP's. Did you build your EMP academy yet? I just hate seeing them be such a rip off outside of TvP.
I agree, I think ghosts cost too much gas, would be nice if they are a bit lower, so, that they get used more.

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I blame it on doom and the random streaming times

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http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/IGNProLeague

IGN pro league is on now! Good quality for free .
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Yeah, it's much better than NASL and free. I wish they got some more casters for NASL.

Btw. there's been so much SC2 content recently I can't even keep up with just watching games, let alone playing.
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I know NASL's free stream shouldn't be compared to IGN's, but DAMN lol.

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I know NASL's free stream shouldn't be compared to IGN's, but DAMN lol.

Crazy different there, that NASL one is too blurry for my taste
    
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I actually had it on 240p. My bad. Still looks like crap compared to IGN's on 480p though ( free stream ).
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