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Since it's not really a viable build I'd say that pretty much anything, but 2 base roach is your best bet imo. If you see protoss not expanding by 6:30 you have to cut drones and only make fighting units. By the time the push comes (I assume 10-11 minutes with 2 colossi) you should have almost twice the food count and better economy, and either burrow or roach speed. Ideally you should aim at 36 drones at 2 bases and pure roach army with speed.
Sounds good. I'd never suffered from this cheese before, so I didn't know what was happening. My early scouting made me thing he was doing mass stalkers, so I started making roaches. Then I made a push at ~8:00 and ran into Immortals on his ramp, so I started making Hydras. Attack came at I think 11:20 with two colossi and some supporting units, so I panicked, spammed hydras and roaches and started a Spire in case I survived (I did not).
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why is protoss so easy mode? currently on an 11 win streak 4 gating on my smurf. roflolol
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why is protoss so easy mode? currently on an 11 win streak 4 gating on my smurf. roflolol
Poorly designed.
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Sounds good. I'd never suffered from this cheese before, so I didn't know what was happening. My early scouting made me thing he was doing mass stalkers, so I started making roaches. Then I made a push at ~8:00 and ran into Immortals on his ramp, so I started making Hydras. Attack came at I think 11:20 with two colossi and some supporting units, so I panicked, spammed hydras and roaches and started a Spire in case I survived (I did not).
Uhm, don't attack 1 base protoss. Basically the longer he's not taking he's expansion after 6 minutes mark the more behind he gets.
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why is protoss so easy mode? currently on an 11 win streak 4 gating on my smurf. roflolol
In PvZ all you have to do is sit behind your defenses on your two bases until you have a huge scary army. Then take a 3rd, then move some probes over as soon the nexus is complete, then attack immediately and finish the game in one knockout punch. That's a pretty common way of playing PvZ for master and diamond protoss. It's close to what Cruncher usually does and it works fine for him against pro zergs. He sits on 3 bases behind his cannons and plays defense until he has an invincible army. It's rather retarded, but it works.
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Know what would reduce the potency of cannon rushing and turtling Protoss? Make cannons take 25 gas.
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I agree, found this little gem earlier today and read it. It shows Blizzard's thought behind designing the units and is quite interesting. I really wish they bring back mines for reapers, bc customization and the different queen abilities, given they will have to be slightly modified.

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Vdek is a mod on Destiny's stream? What....
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Holy crap!

I just finished my placement matches. I've mainly been playing custom games vs. AI and friends, but I decided to get it over with and see how good I really was.

I'm in Gold league! Even though I lost like two or three of my placement matches. I guess obsessively playing Zerg paid off somewhat...

On a related note, what's the Zerg counter to one base Colossi?
Congrats on making Gold!

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I totally want to do this but I'm afraid I'll get banned:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=220087
That's awesome and the music in his video was great

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Know what would reduce the potency of cannon rushing and turtling Protoss? Make cannons take 25 gas.
That will NEVER happen because all defense(spines, spores, cannons, bunker) are mineral only and should stay that way. Best a Z can do is constantly harass the P to prevent the massing of units
    
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Then you'd have to make bunkers/spine crawlers cost gas as well, just increase the time of forge/cannon. Worst thing ever for protoss is in FFA's. One protoss managed to use his cannons/stalkers to fend off early attacks from a terran. He was marine/maruader'ing. I just sat pretty with 3 bases and massed marines/marauders/vikings. That one protoss maganged to take out my 3+3 army of about 130ish supply (200 in total) as well as the other 2 players who had stalkers/sentries, ghosts/marines. He had 0+0 voidrays+carriers+mothership. And then he started boasting how hard toss was and he is such an amazing player for winning like that. It made me upset xD
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^^MMR doesn't change from season 1, so, if you were doing well enough, then losing a couple of games then winning one will promote you usually
errr..... nope
i was bronze lasst year, played at most 10 games entire season, so its already pushing it that im silver this season (i think i lost my placement)

thats basically a promotion to silver after losing 1 game, then lose 4 games in a row, then win 1 and promote to gold, thats what it was

i understand what the MMR does, people talk about it all over the place and stuff, its just.....this is the craziest thing ive seen it done
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