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Originally Posted by MrHackysack View Post
I was playing TvZ today (as Terran) and something happened I have never seen before.

It was late game and I was working off of 4 command centers to keep up with my Zerg opponent. As i moved my force across the map on the the creep towards the Z main base I experienced a new harass: 2 infestors unborrowed at each of my bases and FG'd my SCV's twice, ALL SCV'S DEAD in what felt like 8 seconds. (Gold league btw :\\)

I didn't have time to watch the replay but I will later.
Have any of you experienced this?
yeah ROOT (SC2 team) zerg players do it all the time. It's pretty good harassment.
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wow banelings. ( sen vs mana ).
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Just looking at SC2ranks.com and there isn't one Protoss in the top 10 for NA .

Banes are so strong in ZvT and ZvP. I would almost say they are harder to dodge in ZvP.
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zergs be figuring sh.it out, mang.
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Originally Posted by yellowtoblerone View Post
Let's start with the big stuff:

- you were out droned the whole game
- you were out based in the majority of the game
- you didn't scout or respond to the four gate properly
- you didn't respond to loosing a base and still out droned, instead you single expanded while producing units instead of drones
- you invested in items and evo chamber but don't use or produce out of it b/c of your poor economy

Small stuff:

- you didn't scout before when the earliest warpgate research was done with sac overlord
- you should have been trying to snipe the pylon and probe
- once you see he is not warping units to kill your lings at his base, you should know he's producing units elsewhere
- you could have ran a few more lings inside his mineral lines
- more creep
- better attacks like sniping his third, or nydus his main as harass
- final engagement was at your natural, cutting your expos and main tech buildings/reinforcements, leaving you no time for reinforcement while he can warp right away

Basically he outplayed you the entire game. There are just fundamentals that wasn't done and because of it he got ahead and then got further ahead. For example, most zergs facing two base protoss would have two evo and start third base at 8-10min mark. Most would then single or double expand when protoss expand to a third. They also built another macro hatch. Their creep around the 8 min mark is around what you have late game. Overall just need to work on the core mechanics.

I did my best to put your tips to use in this match: came out much better

http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/1...rg-metalopolis
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yeah ROOT (SC2 team) zerg players do it all the time. It's pretty good harassment.
Yea, it was pretty awesome.
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Just looking at SC2ranks.com and there isn't one Protoss in the top 10 for NA .

Banes are so strong in ZvT and ZvP. I would almost say they are harder to dodge in ZvP.
I don't think they are harder to dodge ( Blink, FF, stalkers are fast ), and certainly give you more leeway with eating shots anyway since everything you guys have has 9 million HP.

But they are good vs P and T none the less.
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I don't think they are harder to dodge ( Blink, FF, stalkers are fast ), and certainly give you more leeway with eating shots anyway since everything you guys have has 9 million HP.

But they are good vs P and T none the less.
Blink isn't that good imo tho. If you blink in your stalkers towards the ovies they are right up against a ton of roaches, and if you blink away your sentries and colossus are next in line to be hit by banes. It's a really tricky, difficult scenario to deal with. All they have to do is get the sentries one time, and then it gets really hard.

Poor Drewbie...1-3.
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lol Artosis is not even close to pro level, I guess that explains why I beat him .
Artosis just isn't the same anymore. He's no longer the Artosis that had a decent Terran in Brood War... now he's the grumpy old man that commentates SC2 and reminisce about his glory days of being a top player.

*EDIT* yeah I'm reading this thread backwards. So I'm quoting a lot of older posts... >,< Trying to keep up on this thread.
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