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http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2517162568

Edited by DoomDash - 5/11/11 at 4:27pm
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I've been getting ghosts. FG is just stupid good, it makes no sense. I don't think it's a problem by itself, I think its more of a problem in good company. You don't need a lot of infestors to brutalize the Terran army. I still think Muta openings are far more of a pain in the ass though. A good Zerg player just picks me apart.

But honestly I struggle vs almost all Zerg builds. Zerg just has so many good options and Terran has to play flawless to beat them, or at least close. Almost all Terrans I know agree TvZ is by far the hardest match up.

Then you put Zerg on a big map and its just such a pain. I believe from the bottom of my heart its unbalanced, at least at my level. Pro level Terran seems awesome ( because they play them flawless ).

LZgamer even said he thinks Zerg late game vs Terran is ridiculously broken due to tier 3 + investors. He said that when we trained the other day.
yes, FG is really good against Bio, 2 FGs and all your marines are gone
@Bolded I guess you meant infestors? I think late game Z is tougher against Terran however, you also have to remember that BLs are expensive to get out and cost supply as well, so, its not like you can get 100 BLs at once(4 supply/BL I believe). Also, wasn't late game Z always tough in BW? I mean aside from not having the queen, mass hydras or mass cracklings were hard to deal with late game when fully upgraded and that doesn't include lurkers as well.

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Played doom on that new map. Really really fun map. No xel naga tower means, you need to be much more wary of putting units in position for scouting. Didn't realize till way later that I can spread creep on water!
I like the change of environment, dry environments with towers were getting old real fast. Hopefully, Blizzard will add this map to the pool in the next season

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Occasionally when i'm gaming, I have huge spikes and game pauses then fastforwards 2-3 seconds. most of the time this isn't too much of an issue as I've been lucky with when I lag but, it's still annoying. Wondering if I should get an SSD; Can anyone who made the switch comment on performance changes?

I reseated my cooler a couple days ago, temps are down @ around 55 in-game. 38 at idle. Previosuly aroudn 60. What do you guys have?
55C in game is not bad, I get around that, given my Q6600 isn't OC'd

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Hey guys iv been lookin around and seems we dont have a custom game section. So that people that like to play custom games instead of league. fan is there anyway we can add that to this section ? So we can find people to play custom games with ?
I can probably add a section titled Custom Game Players and put player names+code under it if u like.
    
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LOL you can't be QQing already?
    
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Bigfan that sounds fantastic. I like playing league but im not that good a macro/micro player... Its hard to find good team mates for custom team games.
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LOL you can't be QQing already?
Why would I be QQing? I haven't even ran into them yet. In theory its bogus though. Did you see the thread on TL about the GM Protoss thinking the same thing? I am just disappointed in Blizzards balance team, it feels like they did that for PvP but didn't think about the consequences. This is a COMMON problem in the game. Remember the Reaper was over nerfed due to 2v2, and the Infestor was changed for ZvP but its arguably way better in ZvT.

In fact my pointing this out is anti-qq, because all these damn Protoss players QQed so hard they got these random buffs. They didn't realize that the Archon was working exactly as Blizzard had intended ( they said this many times, that they intended it to be a emergency unit, nothing more ). They changed the role of the unit because of whiny Protoss players.
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currently experimenting with spanishiwa style which seems to work pretty well but It feels kind of fragile when a mass marine ball comes and you have no gas and thus no banes need to play with that a bit more though see where it takes me.
I've been using that build a lot in ZvT and ZvP.

That build focuses on using your 4 queens/spines/unupgraded zerglings to defend off any early marine harass until you saturate your main/natural mineral lines.

It all depends on how good your scouting is. You overlord sac? Try get an overlord in a good position at his natural to see when he pushes out without letting it get sniped. Place a ling close outside of his base to see him pushing out with an early force so you don't get caught with your pants down and lose too many drones/queens.

Seems pretty similar to BW, how you scout for Terran aggression. Except creep tumors instead of creep colony.

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I do think that you need to keep zerg on the back foot, if you haven't seriously hurt them by the time they get to hive and have mass expanded etc then your going to be in serious trouble, but i would say zerg pay for that by having to either sacrifice econ or map control in the early/early mid game.

my experience is as terran if i keep up heavy pressure in the early game zerg mostly end up over commuting on units and then a strong tank timing push rolls him over. If i ever try and sit back a little and tech then he just creams me

(i play random btw so im kind of nooby at all of them )
Now that I think about it... it's not even a new concept. Brood War was the same way in TvZ. You REALLY did not want Zerg to get 4 bases or a pro zerg would rape your face in unless you were Flash who would camp his bases with crapload of siege tanks and wait for the ultralisk choo-choo train to come and try and finish you off. Hive tech zerg will always be dangerous.
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All the Terrans QQing on TL are driving me mad. They all act as if their Thors will have maxed energy going into fights, so they lose 200 HP from feedback guaranteed on the spot, presuming they have no Ghosts to EMP HT or their own Thors, and that suddenly the Thor nerf makes TvP super imba in favor of Protoss. All on top of perfect micro from the Protoss player using HTs, which isn't too likely.

Absolutely ridiculous. Cloaked ghosts (flanking) are a good counter, throw down two emps on the clumped up HTs and suddenly no shields or energy for HT or feedback.
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anyone having issues w/ patch 1.3.3? I keep getting to 70% and it just closes =(
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I almost feel sorry for Artosis. It was funny how he didn't do anything the commentators predicted him to do. Idra acted professionally though calling him a "non-standard player" (totally random BOs) with "interesting decision making" (getting 2 expos and tech without any units, running GW units into ling hydra on creep). I seriously wonder how is he even in Masters league.
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