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Im a terrible silver league zerg player , my ZvP and ZvZ are fine but i keep losing TvZ, the most common build order seems to be AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA. I build baneling and mutas then they build 2 thors and 3 seige tanks, ive even been experimenting with baneling drops. I need to get better at this game lol
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You don't even need baneling drops. Just make more sling/bane. Pick off tanks with muta, then right click and you win.

BigFan used to feel the same way until he realized the power of the baneling/sling.
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You don't even need baneling drops. Just make more sling/bane. Pick off tanks with muta, then right click and you win.

BigFan used to feel the same way until he realized the power of the baneling/sling.
I wish it was that easy stimed marine eat up the mutas, heck 2 thors behind the seige line , and with like 8 barracks with reactors eats up my 4 base worth of larva :-p i think i need to work on my creep spread that is pretty abysmal atm
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You don't even need baneling drops. Just make more sling/bane. Pick off tanks with muta, then right click and you win.

BigFan used to feel the same way until he realized the power of the baneling/sling.
I've never baneling dropped anyone before I have some trouble with ZvsT, mainly when they go for thors since I love mutas and with thors, it adds that extra amount of caution in muta play. In terms of going against MMM, as doom mentioned, all you need are slings+banes. I used to get mowed down by MMM until I tried that combo. Send in the slings then the banes right after, so, you get a surround and prevent a retreat. Target the marines with banes and any marauders nearby will take damage due to splash.
When I first started using this combo, I would make a lot of slings+banes since I wasn't positive how much was enough, but, now I only make what is required, much easier on the gas As for creep spread, work on that pronto! Creep spread is very important because essentially it gives you vision so you can see when they move out and engage before the tanks are seiged, etc.... basically catch the opponent offguard. Get a queen per hatchery for injecting and another queen for spreading creep tumours. Keep a sling at towers, outside opponent base to see when they move out/exp and poke the front to see what they are doing. Send an OL from the back to find out their gameplan and adjust from there. GL

Edit: actually, I did bane drop someone in a custom, I believe it was an OCN member but you don't need bane drops in silver at all. Just focus on macroing, learning when to drone versus making units(I like to make some units after I get a couple of drones on my exp and keep getting some, maybe 70% drones, 30% units), spreading creep, injecting and scouting. Just practice, practice and practice!
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I'm getting destroyed by mass marines/marauders ............. can't build fast enough to stop them
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I've never baneling dropped anyone before I have some trouble with ZvsT, mainly when they go for thors since I love mutas and with thors, it adds that extra amount of caution in muta play. In terms of going against MMM, as doom mentioned, all you need are slings+banes. I used to get mowed down by MMM until I tried that combo. Send in the slings then the banes right after, so, you get a surround and prevent a retreat. Target the marines with banes and any marauders nearby will take damage due to splash.
When I first started using this combo, I would make a lot of slings+banes since I wasn't positive how much was enough, but, now I only make what is required, much easier on the gas As for creep spread, work on that pronto! Creep spread is very important because essentially it gives you vision so you can see when they move out and engage before the tanks are seiged, etc.... basically catch the opponent offguard. Get a queen per hatchery for injecting and another queen for spreading creep tumours. Keep a sling at towers, outside opponent base to see when they move out/exp and poke the front to see what they are doing. Send an OL from the back to find out their gameplan and adjust from there. GL
I do most of that just poorly X-P , i dont really care how much I lose i have more fun with zerg. First few months of the game i was a high plat terran but i got bored with it.


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I'm getting destroyed by mass marines/marauders ............. can't build fast enough to stop them
Yup I think that comes down to just getting your macro up on 3-4 hatches with good inject timing it shouldnt be so bad, but then again the last game it said i built 779 units terran built 300+ lol i got face rolled by the infamous hold down "A" terran build :-p
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Does anyone want to explain the achievement that requires you to " Warp in a zealot as zerg. "?
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Does anyone want to explain the achievement that requires you to " Warp in a zealot as zerg. "?
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I wish it was that easy stimed marine eat up the mutas, heck 2 thors behind the seige line , and with like 8 barracks with reactors eats up my 4 base worth of larva :-p i think i need to work on my creep spread that is pretty abysmal atm
Snipe the tanks. I really love muta play in ZvT because you can pick off so much and cause Terran so much grief. This is what jediwin does to me, and this is what I do to BigFan when I play Z vs his T. I rarely even lose a muta and I kill so much. When he gets Thor's I just find them alone and magic box.
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Snipe the tanks. I really love muta play in ZvT because you can pick off so much and cause Terran so much grief. This is what jediwin does to me, and this is what I do to BigFan when I play Z vs his T. I rarely even lose a muta and I kill so much. When he gets Thor's I just find them alone and magic box.
While I agree and I do the same to all of my opponents online whether they are T/P/Z, to be fair, I think I only played your Z as T several times over the past couple of months but I do recall that time where I would try to move out and you would come back in and do some harass causing me to retreat XD

BTW, I'll make sure your mutas don't give me as much of an issue next time we have a TvsZ
    
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