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Now that ghosts are cheaper gas, and bio is not as good in 1.3.3, I am working on this style.



I am really bad at it right now, so yes I know I played a lot of it very sloppy.

Most notable things I need to work on :

- Knowing when to expand
- Better scouting
- Cloak for ghosts
- better spreading ( I got lucky this guy didn't have storm )
- Keep up on upgrades, I had all the structures but forgot

So yeah it's quite rough atm. I will make it work though.

PS: I'm also slowly working in more Ghosts in TvZ as well.
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I'll check that out. I'm currently watching as much vod as possible in the TvP match up. I hate you terrans so much...
    
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How can you hate Terran ? That's like hating Batman, the best superhero.
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Batman's a punk, just a rich boy with some ninja training and fancy gadgets from exploiting and embezzling money from his own company.
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Batman's a punk, just a rich boy with some ninja training and fancy gadgets from exploiting and embezzling money from his own company.

I think I know who Protoss would be... the Joker because they are a huge joke!
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DoomDash, I read your post on the bnet forums about archons. I know you said protoss players only, but I'm not here to QQ or call anyone a QQer. I played 10 matches or so and experimented with archons, didn't win a single game against terran. I think they may have a place in PvP, though.

The first match I played went into a 3-base macro game. I added DT tech to 6-gate 2-robo and pumped out some DT + turned them into archons. In a ~150 food vs ~150 food fight, I'd like to say that the archons held their own, but I think they landed 1-2 shots off before being vaporized. Later on I intercepted a rauder drop with 2 archons; they were stim kited to death.

Second game was similar but I just went with the usual 6 WG -> 2 robo -> HT tech. A single storm causes far more damage than an archon will before it dies.

Not saying archons are bad, just that other units are a better investment. 250+ gas is a HUGE investment, I'd much rather have 1.25 colossi or 2 HTs. Nonetheless, archons remain a pretty good backup unit when DTs/HTs are not situationally viable.
    
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DoomDash, I read your post on the bnet forums about archons. I know you said protoss players only, but I'm not here to QQ or call anyone a QQer. I played 10 matches or so and experimented with archons, didn't win a single game against terran. I think they may have a place in PvP, though.

The first match I played went into a 3-base macro game. I added DT tech to 6-gate 2-robo and pumped out some DT + turned them into archons. In a ~150 food vs ~150 food fight, I'd like to say that the archons held their own, but I think they landed 1-2 shots off before being vaporized. Later on I intercepted a rauder drop with 2 archons; they were stim kited to death.

Second game was similar but I just went with the usual 6 WG -> 2 robo -> HT tech. A single storm causes far more damage than an archon will before it dies.

Not saying archons are bad, just that other units are a better investment. 250+ gas is a HUGE investment, I'd much rather have 1.25 colossi or 2 HTs. Nonetheless, archons remain a pretty good backup unit when DTs/HTs are not situationally viable.
You are miss understanding me I think. I'm not saying people should go archons on purpose, I'm saying they may be too good in the same situations they were used in pre-patch. Basically after all the storms go off / the battle is almost finished. I just think in that moment when Terran may have a little bit left he will end up losing it all now. Keeping units alive at the end of the battle is more important for Terran IMO because of the warp in mechanic for Protoss.

Again, I don't know if it's imba or anything, more or less just thinking about it. I don't want anything changed unless the pros really tell us its broken ( on both sides ). Just theory crafting.

Anyway I'm trying new style, I think bio is on its way out anyway because these new double forge or fast +3 armor builds are SOOOO good vs bio.
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Hey guys! Silver player here. Anyone up for a quick match and/or give me some pointers? I'm still learning, but I'm a budding Terran player!
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Batman's a punk, just a rich boy with some ninja training and fancy gadgets from exploiting and embezzling money from his own company.
That's just...

jealousy.
    
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=221896

I like this read. And it makes me interested to see what happens when August comes around. And if something does happen, give or take a couple months of training,early 2012 should be bombbbbbbb.
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