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My attitude is since Zerg tier 1 sucks you have to get the Lair started as quickly as possible. Until you reach tier 2 you're stuck in a reactionary and defensive mode as Zerg. I don't like that at all.
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My attitude is since Zerg tier 1 sucks you have to get the Lair started as quickly as possible. Until you reach tier 2 you're stuck in a reactionary and defensive mode as Zerg. I don't like that at all.
I think Zerg is super strong defensively / and some what strong offensively tier 1. Nobody has anything as good as the queen for defense early, and fast speed lings are a threat to anyone, especially making leaving your base early a risk ( speedling run bys ).
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I think Zerg is super strong defensively / and some what strong offensively tier 1. Nobody has anything as good as the queen for defense early, and fast speed lings are a threat to anyone, especially making leaving your base early a risk ( speedling run bys ).
Speedlings don't impress me as early offensive weapons vs Terran. Cliffjumpers evade them easily and hellions can just run away or shoot and scoot.
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Well by hellions you aren't on tier 1 anymore. Speedlings can do OK vs Reaper if you are good at surrounding. Roaches are also pretty fast to be out.
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I think Zerg is super strong defensively / and some what strong offensively tier 1. Nobody has anything as good as the queen for defense early, and fast speed lings are a threat to anyone, especially making leaving your base early a risk ( speedling run bys ).
Zerg tier 1 is pretty lame against a walled-in Terran. The only scout you have is the overlord, which has the mobility of a piano.
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How many other people have units that can fly to scout since the beginning? I use them to scout all the time. It's pretty common to sack an overlord pretty early for that information. Plus overlords are great to have vision of many parts of the map. I like them.

but yes against T lair tech is nice, for overseers any many other things.
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How many other people have units that can fly to scout since the beginning? I use them to scout all the time. It's pretty common to sack an overlord pretty early for that information. Plus overlords are great to have vision of many parts of the map. I like them.

but yes against T lair tech is nice, for overseers any many other things.
Do you ever find it necessary to upgrade them in your average game?
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How many other people have units that can fly to scout since the beginning? I use them to scout all the time. It's pretty common to sack an overlord pretty early for that information. Plus overlords are great to have vision of many parts of the map. I like them.

but yes against T lair tech is nice, for overseers any many other things.
T gets cliffjumpers right away, and Z can't wall off. Overlords are okay as a stationary observation post, but they really suck as a mobile scout until you get the speed upgrade. If you try to float one of the non-upgraded ones over an enemy base you just end up losing it.
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T gets cliffjumpers right away, and Z can't wall off. Overlords are okay as a stationary observation post, but they really suck as a mobile scout until you get the speed upgrade. If you try to float one of the non-upgraded ones over an enemy base you just end up losing it.
Just having your overlord above ground pretty much guarantees that it's going to die if the other guy sees it and if you don't have the speed upgrade.
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