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Just having your overlord above ground pretty much guarantees that it's going to die if the other guy sees it and if you don't have the speed upgrade.
Yeah, more reason to try to get Lair tech ASAP. When you get the Overlord speed upgrade you instantly gain a bunch of effective aerial scouts.
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It's just so annoying that it takes so long to get a transporter. three separate upgrades to make the overlord worthwhile (lair, speed, and transport), or the nydus, which requires sight regardless...

Has anyone actually ever SEEN anyone do an overlord drop in a rated game?
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Originally Posted by Tchernobyl View Post
It's just so annoying that it takes so long to get a transporter. three separate upgrades to make the overlord worthwhile (lair, speed, and transport), or the nydus, which requires sight regardless...

Has anyone actually ever SEEN anyone do an overlord drop in a rated game?
Yeah. TLO did an awesome "doom drop" and leveled the Terran primary base with a big army built around ultralisks. I saw it on YouTube. I can't remember who his opponent was.
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Zerg always do drops! They rarely just go busting through the front.
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It's just so annoying that it takes so long to get a transporter. three separate upgrades to make the overlord worthwhile (lair, speed, and transport), or the nydus, which requires sight regardless...

Has anyone actually ever SEEN anyone do an overlord drop in a rated game?
It's actually a little worse than that because it's really not practical to delay getting a queen. So it's pool, queen, lair, speed, transport. That's a long wait.
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i had a look at the timers and whatnot.

Including all the buildings (and buildings alone, with the exception of 2 drones to replace the buildings needed for zerg)... to get a transporter.
terran: about 600 minerals, 300 gas, 242 seconds (i forget the exact number except time)
protoss: 875 minerals, 150 or 200 gas, 280ish seconds (i forget the exact time, but it's around there).
zerg: 875 minerals, 400 gas, nearly 400 seconds, if i recall correctly.

It's a huge delay to get a transport out :/
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Its easier for Z to get drops out over anyone else... not only that but they have nydus networks as well. I just get a fast overseer or two when I play.
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i had a look at the timers and whatnot.

Including all the buildings (and buildings alone, with the exception of 2 drones to replace the buildings needed for zerg)... to get a transporter.
terran: about 600 minerals, 300 gas, 242 seconds (i forget the exact number except time)
protoss: 875 minerals, 150 or 200 gas, 280ish seconds (i forget the exact time, but it's around there).
zerg: 875 minerals, 400 gas, nearly 400 seconds, if i recall correctly.

It's a huge delay to get a transport out :/
Who in their right mind will only drop using one transport ship? Fit two tanks? 4 marauders? 8 marines? Or how about a few zealots? Maybe a DT drop...

Point is, I don't see a valid comparison there. As soon as you can get the upgrades up, you essentially have around 3-4 transports at the least versus the terran or protoss single one.
I don't believe that needs a buff.
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I see many terrans use single ship with 4 marau to snipe out single tech buildings quite often.
    
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I see many terrans use single ship with 4 marau to snipe out single tech buildings quite often.
Right. In high level play, especially the pro 1v1s that everyone gets their opinions of balance from, this happens somewhat often.

But in regular old play and team games, I've never seen anyone do a 4 marauder drop. And even if they did, it still doesn't justify making zerg transports any cheaper.
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