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TvZ in SCII is the best match up ever.
I dunno about best ever, but, the matchup does seem pretty balanced IMO. Infact, I actually went up against Calm's army consisting of BLs last night with a pure marine+tanks+2 thor army and managed to survive to tell the tale. He got me the next game by all ining using drones+slings+roaches XD

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I stomp T as Z if they let me get 1 or 2 base up on them it's just stomping time. It depends if you let the Z Macro it's going to to be a long game it's best to do timing pushes and to kill drones when you can. My favorite to play tho.
If the T opponent keeps making units and harassing your multiple bases(banshees, hellions, marine drops, etc....) then chances are they'll catch up when you are busy remaking drones with a strong push then just continue harassing since you lack the ability to make units(do I make drones since I need some badly or do I make army units to defend, but, resources would run dry?).

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Originally Posted by Sainesk View Post
just wanted to double check the best ways to not get supply blocked at the start for non speed builds:

T: depot at 9
Z: extractor trick to 11/10 then lord
P: pylon at 9?
You can get an OL for Z at 9 and it shouldn't block you for much time I think. I usually just go for 10 and then get 3 drones as soon as it pops since you end up with about 150 minerals
    
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Normal mouse sucks.

Get a Razer Naga: extra buttons help so much with control/hotkey access.

    
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Normal mouse sucks.

Get a Razer Naga: extra buttons help so much with control/hotkey access.
My thumbs are too big i would hit all of those at the same time

Although setting a macro for 5-s-d would be nice one hit to drone up lol
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huh?

for T I always go at 9, it doesn't slow down the next scv being produced and finishes just in time for 12...?
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huh?

for T I always go at 9, it doesn't slow down the next scv being produced and finishes just in time for 12...?
Then you didn't start an SCV before sending your 6 to mine right at the very start, it should line up that just as your 9th SCV comes out and your 10th is building (10 supply) you throw down a depot.

Start of game goes- CC build SCV -> send to mine with split -> 10 supply depot (if you send your 9th SCV to the ramp it usually lines up with the timing if you want to wall off) ->12 rax->13 refinery -> 15 Orbital Command+constant marines-> 16 depot. Try and get it down that this happens in all your games and you'll find that early pushes like the 6pool get stomped on.

Edit: skip to 2:15
Edited by KittensMewMew - 5/19/11 at 10:41pm
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CC build SCV
is that the way you're supposed to do it, I figured send scvs first to not lose any mining time is more important...?
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is that the way you're supposed to do it, I figured send scvs first to not lose any mining time is more important...?
It's either or, but if you don't have fast hand speed getting your SCV started at the CC is more important than taking 4-5 seconds splitting your workers. Go play a 4v4 and look at the timings on other terran players' barracks and depots and also watch the production tab. The people who start their SCV first almost always have a barracks go down first, unless they're cool and want a fast factory so their teammates can lose the game because they have no units 6 minutes into the game.
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ah figures, i was stacking up my 10th scv at 9 before the depot
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My thumbs are too big i would hit all of those at the same time

Although setting a macro for 5-s-d would be nice one hit to drone up lol
I never even thought of that. I just use 4-0 on the numpad as 890, then 765 as the last row. This allows me to bind builddings to 0-8 on the hotkeys on the mouse, and then various units to 1-6/7. Free up much so I never 1A.
    
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Then you didn't start an SCV before sending your 6 to mine right at the very start, it should line up that just as your 9th SCV comes out and your 10th is building (10 supply) you throw down a depot.

Start of game goes- CC build SCV -> send to mine with split -> 10 supply depot (if you send your 9th SCV to the ramp it usually lines up with the timing if you want to wall off) ->12 rax->13 refinery -> 15 Orbital Command+constant marines-> 16 depot. Try and get it down that this happens in all your games and you'll find that early pushes like the 6pool get stomped on.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX8X9WkMwMQ skip to 2:15
Hmm any more videos like this but with other builds and other races builds?
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