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Obviously Tastetosis is up to date with the Korean trends .


Honestly I enjoy a large variety of casters, even totalbiscuit. Some offer very little to the depth of SCII, but they do great play by plays. I like to have one good play by player, and one knowledgable guy by his side. I think the best combo is obv tastetosis.
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Day9's game knowledge isn't up there with top players, I'll give you that. But the same can be said about any commentator, including Artosis. There's a certain tradeoff in being a professional commentator, and that is that you don't get to play as much. But calling him ignorant is just dishonest. He's probably still a GM level player, which is not surprising considering he was the best NA Broodwar player for a long time.

And about american players being oblivious of different styles, well that goes both ways. Korean players are also largely oblivious of EU and NA styles, but they don't care because they're just better and win anyway.
Artosis is far better in terms of game knowledge, but I don't love his bias Still I guess it spices up the scene for some people
And by ignorant, i was referring to their knowledge in the korean scene, which they NEED to study in order to compete. Their strategic part of commentating is shaky as well, especially when talking about maps. eg TDA And it's just blatantly offensive when they get simple facts wrong.

While korean players are obviously light years ahead, I think that if American players actually studied their play properly, we'd see better results in tourneys due to the sniping factor, and the lack of knowledge demonstrated from the commentators just reflects the players' unawareness to KR and EU.
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Artosis is far better in terms of game knowledge, but I don't love his bias Still I guess it spices up the scene for some people
And by ignorant, i was referring to their knowledge in the korean scene, which they NEED to study in order to compete. Their strategic part of commentating is shaky as well, especially when talking about maps. eg TDA And it's just blatantly offensive when they get simple facts wrong.

While korean players are obviously light years ahead, I think that if American players actually studied their play properly, we'd see better results in tourneys due to the sniping factor, and the lack of knowledge demonstrated from the commentators just reflects the players' unawareness to KR and EU.
Good points, I mostly agree. Day has mostly been casting foreign tournaments so far so his knowledge regarding the Korean scene specifically is indeed limited

However, we're seeing a lot of Koreans entering foreign tournaments so I hope the styles start converging soon and commentators getting better as a result.
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I have never watched day 9 ROFL Mainly because his commentating in major tournament just screams ignorant tbh His mistakes and misinformed rant in MLG were atrocious
The guy's just trying to get out of bronze right now, not make masters Even though day9 may not be up to the most recent strats in the EU/KR scene, his advice about basic gameplay is still solid.

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Doom is there anything else you can recommend? I just want to get out of Bronze O_o...
I'm only gold, so take this w/ a pinch of salt. But if you really want to just get out of Bronze right now, stick with one race, pick a solid strat for each matchup, and just play a lot. It's not viable if you want to constantly improve, but it does get you out of bronze.

Or if you have a friend who's better than you, you can just play w/ him. I have a Masters friend that I play 2v2 with, and we always go on skype when we play. And in the game he'd tell me to do this or that and I've picked up a lot of things from him. Like often he'll tell me to move out and my first reaction would be "whaa? " and he'll be like "it's okay they can't do anything to us right now", and he'd be right 8/10 times.
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The guy's just trying to get out of bronze right now, not make masters Even though day9 may not be up to the most recent strats in the EU/KR scene, his advice about basic gameplay is still solid.



I'm only gold, so take this w/ a pinch of salt. But if you really want to just get out of Bronze right now, stick with one race, pick a solid strat for each matchup, and just play a lot. It's not viable if you want to constantly improve, but it does get you out of bronze.

Or if you have a friend who's better than you, you can just play w/ him. I have a Masters friend that I play 2v2 with, and we always go on skype when we play. And in the game he'd tell me to do this or that and I've picked up a lot of things from him. Like often he'll tell me to move out and my first reaction would be "whaa? " and he'll be like "it's okay they can't do anything to us right now", and he'd be right 8/10 times.
The dude's terran right?

TvT : Herrion tank.
TvZ : Herrion tank rine, start with reactor helion expand.
TvP : 1/1/1 with the banshee focus variation, without cloak.

Stick with this, work on ur mechanics, ur masters in no time
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Do you watch day9's daily? If not already, it would be a good place to start
Are they really DAILY? Like everyday?

BTW, Sangers... what is a Herrion??

I do agree that all American casters could have more knowledge but they do have some good words. There are some casters who don't know much about the game at all (djwheat, totalbuiscut), but they are fun to watch. Thats why people love them. I think Day9 and Tastosis have the best things to say about StarCraft game.
Edited by Sauce Boss - 8/8/11 at 12:51pm
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Are they really DAILY? Like everyday?
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The dude's terran right?

TvT : Herrion tank.
TvZ : Herrion tank rine, start with reactor helion expand.
TvP : 1/1/1 with the banshee focus variation, without cloak.

Stick with this, work on ur mechanics, ur masters in no time
U understand all of above right?
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U understand all of above right?
Yeah, I've also been doing a 2rax expo rax fact -> tank play recently with lots of mauraders vP.
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Anyone who thinks day9 is a bad caster has not spent much time listening to tournaments cast by Husky, HD, Catspajamas, Painuser, Gretorp, Incontrol, Chill, MrBitter, or any of the even worse casters that somehow still get to talk on top of good games. These guys spend half of each game wasting time with small talk, they don't have any understanding of game flow or strategy, they give bad players way too much credit, and if day9 could conceivably cast every tournament that these morons get involved in, I wouldn't mind one bit.
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