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The best 3v3 build, to my knowledge, is Toss/Zerg/Terran. I'm in 3v3 masters with a bunch of different teams by just 5-0ing my placements every time. I've even carried gold/plat players to it aswell.

Terran goes gas first, reactor hellion, zerg goes 10 pool speedling, toss 4gates or does ANYTHING, really.

The ling/hell comp will kill any early aggression and you will be able to at least shut down the zerg completely on their team, and maybe even another player. Once they come to counter attack, the protoss is left to macro so theyll have a pretty beefy army to keep you alive. Now you can just expand and macro since you're so far ahead. As the terran I usually just go double armory, pure siegetank/blueflame hellion.

The reason it works is that the speedlings can tank for the hellions, allowing them to splash all over the weak marines/speedlings/zealots of the early game.
Depends on maps, but the best rush team is TZZ with double 10p and bf helion build. It'll also counter that tzp team u have there.
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Puma 3-0 vs MC . Well played. Funny seeing the Protoss players complain on TL, even though long before 1-1-1 was considered "op" he beat MC anyway without it.
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Puma 3-0 vs MC . Well played. Funny seeing the Protoss players complain on TL, even though long before 1-1-1 was considered "op" he beat MC anyway without it.
huh? Puma did 1/1/1 for game no.1 and the last game. The second game was the only game without 1/1/1.
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^^I might be wrong but I believe he's talking about NASL finals and previous events

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Half of your shots have artifacts, brother What's wrong?
I just turned the sound up on my lappy and it kept that mark

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What do you do in ZvZ where the guy you're facing is doing the same build as you - Roach, Infestor and Zerglings? To me it just seemed like a micro battle, which I lost (even though I have ~280 APM in fights). I'm in gold league btw.

The guy I was playing against eventually went for Brood Lords - but I feel that if I had scouted a Greater Spire (I only saw a normal Spire and thought he went for Muta harass) I could have gone for Neural Parasite and won that way - so I feel that Brood Lords are not powerful enough vs infestors. What do?
It really comes down to a micro battle. Get some good FG on slings(should kill them outright) and the rest on the other roaches. IMO, if he goes for BLs, best to go for corruptors or if you won't have them in time, mutas. Not sure how well hydras would do so can't say if it's a good idea to try them

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Puma 3-0 vs MC . Well played. Funny seeing the Protoss players complain on TL, even though long before 1-1-1 was considered "op" he beat MC anyway without it.
Really? hmm, guess going to EG didn't destroy his work ethics just yet
    
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No he was talking about IEM, where MC got 3:0ed, as shown in the spoiler.
Puma did 1/1/1 for the first game and the last game, which he won because terrans could float the buildings

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=257536

I fully agree with this, even though I'm a zerg player.

EDIT: Also, he practises with TSL and his old partners, instead with EG
Edited by Sangers_low - 8/21/11 at 11:40am
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No he was talking about IEM, where MC got 3:0ed, as shown in the spoiler.
Puma did 1/1/1 for the first game and the last game, which he won because terrans could float the buildings

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=257536

I fully agree with this, even though I'm a zerg player.

EDIT: Also, he practises with TSL and his old partners, instead with EG
no no. He was talking about how Puma beat MC in the NASL finals without 1-1-1. The IEM comment was about him doing 1-1-1 in the first and last game and winning them both
I was just about to post that link Too much QQ about 1-1-1 going on imo.
    
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It is interesting how the AM server is easier than the EU server, I am plat for AM and gold for EU 1v1.
I haven't played team games in AM server yet
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^^I might be wrong but I believe he's talking about NASL finals and previous events


I just turned the sound up on my lappy and it kept that mark


It really comes down to a micro battle. Get some good FG on slings(should kill them outright) and the rest on the other roaches. IMO, if he goes for BLs, best to go for corruptors or if you won't have them in time, mutas. Not sure how well hydras would do so can't say if it's a good idea to try them


Really? hmm, guess going to EG didn't destroy his work ethics just yet
I should correct myself - he didn't use Speedlings - I did. I figured it'd be easier to use those to keep him in place (also because I was floating minerals like crazy because I was only pumping out Roaches and Infestors)

And thanks - I could probably have made a Spire myself but I didn't feel that I could afford the gas to go for Mutas or Corruptors.
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Got placed in gold today, top 20's, then won vs a zerg and made top 10
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No he was talking about IEM, where MC got 3:0ed, as shown in the spoiler.
Puma did 1/1/1 for the first game and the last game, which he won because terrans could float the buildings

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/view...opic_id=257536

I fully agree with this, even though I'm a zerg player.

EDIT: Also, he practises with TSL and his old partners, instead with EG
BigFan has it right. I was referring to NASL, where Puma bested MC with out anything debatable as IMBA. Considering I rarely see 1-1-1 in GSL besides maps that are really awesome for it ( up to 3 ), I would hardly say its imba. If it was that imba Terrans would be using it quite a lot more than they are. If it fails its really hard to transition out of too, that's like any all in build.
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